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Not on my devices. Auto update has been abused so often now that it is an embarrassment to the industry. Auto update should be for bug fixes and security issues
by jacquesm 5mo ago
Not on my devices. Auto update has been abused so often now that it is an embarrassment to the industry. Auto update should be for bug fixes and security issues only.
- fsflover 5mo agoThis is exactly how it works on Debian. Can recommend.
- jacquesm 5mo agoGuess what runs my PC. Tech companies just don't understand consent.
- bell-cot 5mo ago> ... don't understand consent. The word you're looking for is "respect". They understand consent, the same as JBS* understands animal rights. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JBS_N.V https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JBS_N.V.
- delecti 5mo agoFor anyone else wondering why that link doesn't work, the hacker news formatting is dropping the final period. Add it back in and the link works.
- dspillett 5mo agoIt is almost the standard: Q: Does <company> understand consent? A: No / Maybe Later but the Google version is: Q: Does <company> understand consent? A: No / Maybe Later / we did it anyway, you'll need to search to find out how to turn it off, maybe ask the new AI model we've just back-door installed?
- Waterluvian 5mo agoI think they do. They just don’t care. We’re the fleetingly small percentage of nerds in the corner who will notice and complain. Were useful to them for other reasons but we’re not really the concern here. It’s probably a business misplay to tell the other 99% of users about something they weren’t going to think about. But if by chance it goes awry and there’s outcry, just apologize and commit to do better.
- mystraline 5mo agoDo you understand consent? 1. Yes 2. Ask me later
- abdullahkhalids 5mo agoThere is a difference between - software company decides to release a new version and auto installs it for everyone who has the old version (like Google Chrome) - software company decides to release a new version. The Debian packaage maintainer checks if the update is fine, is compatible with Debian policies, then includes it in the packages repositories. In the first, there are no checks. In the second, there are.
- jacquesm 5mo agoYes, and it is precisely that kind of curation that makes Debian as valuable as it is.
- z3t4 5mo agoAuto update is basically a root backdoor, it's especially troublesome when you are not the customer, you are the product!
- dist-epoch 5mo agoYes, which is why I use paid-for OSes and browsers, instead of free ones like Linux or Firefox. I don't want to be the product.
- pipe2devnull 5mo agoI think with Windows you probably are the customer and the product
- vanderZwan 5mo agoCory Doctorow had an essay about that years ago, except he didn't artificially limit it to Windows: "Even if you're paying for the product, you're still the product: Incentives matter, but impunity matters more." https://pluralistic.net/2022/11/14/luxury-surveillance/#liar-liar https://pluralistic.net/2022/11/14/luxury-surveillance/#liar...
- pjc50 5mo agoMan, this is a dumb take even by HN standards.
- dist-epoch 5mo agoNo, the dumb take is believing that if you pay for something you are not the product anyway.
- coldtea 5mo agoHe meant the face-value of your comment is dumb. But I think it as sarcasm is also wrong.
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- giancarlostoro 5mo agoI'm on an Arch flavor, so its whenever I feel like updating. I try to update frequently enough, but if i wait weeks or months, nothing breaks, it always just works, and I get the latest of everything.