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"Soviet was not real communism because bla bla" The best is when you guys say you want to be like Scandinavia. None of us are communist, we are a market econom
by Scroll_Swe 5mo ago
"Soviet was not real communism because bla bla"
The best is when you guys say you want to be like Scandinavia. None of us are communist, we are a market economy like you.
- mghackerlady 5mo agoThe soviet union objectively wasn't communism though, they didn't claim they were either. They had the goal of developing communism, but failed
- mmcdermott 5mo agoEven if we accept that, the millions dead and incalculable human suffering incurred by the attempts is more than reason enough to stop trying. There was no greater cause of human suffering in the 20th century than the worldwide attempts to build communist governments.
- mghackerlady 5mo agoThose are all either massively exaggerated, coincidental, or are painful side effects of revolution If we stopped trying to build capitalism for the same reasons we'd all still be serfs
- glacier9147 5mo agoI don't know, trying to stop communism also accounts for a lot of human suffering
- dmos62 5mo agoHonestly, this forum expects you to differentiate between socialism, communism, and the Soviet Union. Whatever your views might be.
- Scroll_Swe 5mo agoYes, that is what I mean. The issue with communism is if it never happened for real you can imagine all sorts of good amazing things from it with 0 pushback. Look atleast at the states calming to be communist. Would you rather live in Soviet or Western Europe? Ask the balts and poles... btw Sweden is not socialist
- dmos62 5mo agoWhy is that an issue? Would you like discourse to be less grounded in ideals? Or is it that these particular ideals are a harm disguised as benefit?
- Scroll_Swe 5mo ago? Because then you can just make shit up to put it bluntly.
- mghackerlady 5mo agoany idea anyones ever had comes down to that. Sometimes they're right, sometimes they're wrong, and sometimes they need to be refined
- Scroll_Swe 5mo agoBut we can see what the best systems already are... Where do people want to live? - western/nordic europe, japan, singapore, usa, canada