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I had the same reaction. We're headed into a period where you can shape your tools exactly as you like them; artisanal rather than factory-created workshops, es

I had the same reaction. We're headed into a period where you can shape your tools exactly as you like them; artisanal rather than factory-created workshops, essentially. I think the instinct that APIs, validation layers, and so on take on a much higher importance is right.. I have a few internal tools that made sense to make libraries out of, and once the first library is good, and a test suite is comprehensive, porting to a bunch of different languages is extremely simple. Everting that, it's also going to be simple for someone to hook up to this library with custom tooling. Really interesting period in computing, for sure.

chrisweekly 6mo ago
"Everting"?
- setopt 6mo ago
  I had to check it up too. Appears to be a synonym for "inverting" used in some fields like biology and medicine.
- vessenes 6mo ago
  I learned it in the math context - a sphere eversion is a 3 dimensional process that ends with the inside of the sphere becoming the outside.
blks 6mo ago
> We're headed into a period where you can shape your tools exactly as you like the What period were we for the past 50 years?
- vessenes 6mo ago
  Since roughly 1995 or so we've been in a world where quality tooling was provided by on the order of 1,000s of developers, mostly open source. GNU, Xorg, Apache, emacs, nginx, and so on. Or you could opt in to the Microsoft ecosystem. The ~20 years prior to that we were in a world where you chose to align with either Microsoft's tooling, IBM, or shops providing Unix tooling from proprietary vendors. I elide a nearly infinite amount of detail, obviously. What's new now is that you can get your own window manager written to spec in under a week, perhaps much more quickly, not just choose one of a few major window managers and configure it in accordance with the chosen configuration options delivered by the large developer team.
  - skydhash 6mo ago
    The reason I don’t bother writing code this days is because my use cases have been solved, and if they weren’t, I’d tweak the most suitable candidate. One of my principles is to keep my workload small. More often than not, things starts with a small script or plugin, and then grow according to my needs. Why replicate what others have already done?
    - josephg 6mo ago
      Because its fun. And because your experience using a tool is fundamentally different if you made it yourself, compared to if its something someone else made for you. I don't think I can explain the difference, but it feels really different. Even if you used claude.
      - blks 6mo ago
        It never felt fun for me to write software fully with LLMs. It feels disorientating, it produces a lot of code that you have no familiarity with and no authorship. It feels like you’re a teenager again, copy pasting code from internet or journal and hoping it will work.
        cestith 6mo ago
        I promise you some professional developers mostly get better at figuring out what to copy before pasting. Those folks are going to be fine with having no authorship over the majority of the code they put into their applications. For others, there’s a tension between wanting to write and understand the code on one hand and wanting to be a product manager over the application and delegate some control to the LLM.
    - theshrike79 6mo ago
      If others have built a whole-ass house and I just occasionally need the kitchen table I had to just deal with the hassle of having a whole house and just used the table. And even the table was the wrong shape, but I could deal with it. Asking the Others to make the table modifiable would've been a massive effort of PRs and mailing lists I didn't want to get into. Now I can build a bespoke table in an evening or two and it fits my stuff just perfectly. I could do it before too, but it would've taken too long for me to bother, so I dealt with the whole house along with the table.

chrisweekly 6mo ago

"Everting"?

setopt 6mo ago
I had to check it up too. Appears to be a synonym for "inverting" used in some fields like biology and medicine.
vessenes 6mo ago
I learned it in the math context - a sphere eversion is a 3 dimensional process that ends with the inside of the sphere becoming the outside.

blks 6mo ago

> We're headed into a period where you can shape your tools exactly as you like the What period were we for the past 50 years?

vessenes 6mo ago
Since roughly 1995 or so we've been in a world where quality tooling was provided by on the order of 1,000s of developers, mostly open source. GNU, Xorg, Apache, emacs, nginx, and so on. Or you could opt in to the Microsoft ecosystem. The ~20 years prior to that we were in a world where you chose to align with either Microsoft's tooling, IBM, or shops providing Unix tooling from proprietary vendors. I elide a nearly infinite amount of detail, obviously. What's new now is that you can get your own window manager written to spec in under a week, perhaps much more quickly, not just choose one of a few major window managers and configure it in accordance with the chosen configuration options delivered by the large developer team.
- skydhash 6mo ago
  The reason I don’t bother writing code this days is because my use cases have been solved, and if they weren’t, I’d tweak the most suitable candidate. One of my principles is to keep my workload small. More often than not, things starts with a small script or plugin, and then grow according to my needs. Why replicate what others have already done?
  - josephg 6mo ago
    Because its fun. And because your experience using a tool is fundamentally different if you made it yourself, compared to if its something someone else made for you. I don't think I can explain the difference, but it feels really different. Even if you used claude.
    - blks 6mo ago
      It never felt fun for me to write software fully with LLMs. It feels disorientating, it produces a lot of code that you have no familiarity with and no authorship. It feels like you’re a teenager again, copy pasting code from internet or journal and hoping it will work.
      - cestith 6mo ago
        I promise you some professional developers mostly get better at figuring out what to copy before pasting. Those folks are going to be fine with having no authorship over the majority of the code they put into their applications. For others, there’s a tension between wanting to write and understand the code on one hand and wanting to be a product manager over the application and delegate some control to the LLM.
  - theshrike79 6mo ago
    If others have built a whole-ass house and I just occasionally need the kitchen table I had to just deal with the hassle of having a whole house and just used the table. And even the table was the wrong shape, but I could deal with it. Asking the Others to make the table modifiable would've been a massive effort of PRs and mailing lists I didn't want to get into. Now I can build a bespoke table in an evening or two and it fits my stuff just perfectly. I could do it before too, but it would've taken too long for me to bother, so I dealt with the whole house along with the table.