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You're saying that like we have a choice. If we don't pay taxes we get jailed. Simple as that.
by abustamam 6mo ago
You're saying that like we have a choice. If we don't pay taxes we get jailed. Simple as that.
- kordlessagain 6mo agoStop paying so much is not the same as not paying. Why are you making it otherwise?
- abustamam 6mo agoOh OK, thanks for clarifying that I can pay less than I owe and be scot free.
- iamnothere 6mo agoMake less, pay less. If you’ve had a successful career already, you may be able to “drop out” and find a place to live cheaply. I’ve heard good things about Panama.
- abustamam 6mo agoIf you've had a successful career already you probably already paid a lot of taxes, unless you're a billionaire in which case you're not paying taxes anyway.
- iamnothere 6mo agoThe best time to start making a lifestyle change was years ago, but the second best time is today. If you can legally opt out, there’s no good reason to keep pouring tax dollars into a corrupt, possibly unfixable system.
- abustamam 6mo agoSo your solution to fighting against authoritarian regimes is to be rich enough to fuck off to another state/country?
- OutOfHere 6mo agoThat would be an unfair reframing. The original intent was that erasing their tax revenue weakens the authoritarian regime by draining it of the resources needed for enforcement of unfair laws.
- abustamam 6mo agoI understood the original intent. I just don't think it's a viable solution. The US govt has not been shy about borrowing and printing more money to do whatever they want.
- OutOfHere 6mo agoThat borrowing funds only the federal government, not the state government. The states don't get to borrow in the same way. Also, that borrowing will increasingly come with a high interest rate and high inflation.
- abustamam 6mo agoSure but these problems exist at the federal level too. And yes the consequences are real but it still happens and is why we can't just hit the federal govt in the wallet. For the time being, elections are still free, so voting is still the most effective way, but raising awareness of stuff like this makes people more aware of who NOT to vote for next office.
- OutOfHere 6mo agoIt's happening at the state level at this time. In any event, we don't need to hit the federal government in their wallet as they're too busy doing it to themselves with their immense exponentially-growing loan that will crush them soon enough.
- OutOfHere 6mo agoOutside of a W-2 salary, there are ways, more applicable to businesses, also to independent contractors. Even for those with a salary, they ought to do their best to collect all the legally qualified benefits that they can. Lots of independent contractors get paid as W-2 when they could be getting paid as a corp, for which they could write off a portion of the taxes via deductibles and in various other ways. Lots of people could be ordering online at websites that don't deduct a sales tax. Instead, they pay a substantial amount in sales tax. Using a Delaware corp for various transactions can also go a long way.
- abustamam 6mo agoI don't think anyone voluntarily pays more taxes than they ought to. People DO collect all their legally qualified benefits. It's why software like turbo tax is still around despite being a shitty company.
- OutOfHere 6mo agoI disagree completely. There are all manner of loopholes and benefits that people fail to avail. Even the people with only a salary end up paying too much in sales tax and property tax.
- functionmouse 6mo agoso it's okay because we're just following orders?
- abustamam 6mo agoSure if you wanna put it that way. I don't like paying taxes because our government doesn't use it well. But I also know that if I don't pay taxes I'm gonna have a bad time.
- dandellion 6mo agoOnly if you're poor, the rich don't pay taxes just fine.
- abustamam 6mo agoIncidentally these rules probably don't apply or won't be enforced on the rich because of some loophole.