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> I can use Linux but I have decades of Windows muscle memory and I do a bunch of DirectX programming. I see a likely inversion of motives here: you earn your

> I can use Linux but I have decades of Windows muscle memory and I do a bunch of DirectX programming. I see a likely inversion of motives here: you earn your living coding or otherwise are deeply vested in Windows, so you are committed for survival to Windows and to fixing the absurd account problem that MSFT has inflicted on you. The expression "muscle memory" here just means the cognitive load of working with a technology. MSFT has added a hard-blocking piece of stupidity to your cognitive load. I am sure this is not the first time! Registry problems, update problems, and now for pity's sake account problems. As a long-time user of both Linux and Windows, I'd say my OS cognitive load with Linux is almost entirely related to efficient actions, whereas with Windows I have a quiver of stupid arrows to shoot at all the problems that MSFT inflicts. When people advise you to switch to Linux if you can, they are giving solid advice.

noosphr 6mo ago
My Ubuntu servers have been in an undefined state since canonical botched a regular upgrade to 26.04 LTS due to the ongoing DDOS. Their status page says everything works. A simple ping tells me nothing works. Let's not pretend Microsoft has a monopoly on idiocy in the software world. All major Linux distros are hell bent on repeating the mistakes of Windows. Especially since the people in control of the stack (minus the kernel) are the rejects who couldn't make it in Microsoft and Apple in the 90s and 00s but really wanted to. Meanwhile my small happy place with OpenBSD and Guix just works.
- codedokode 6mo ago
  Linux has lot of bugs and issues, but they are not caused by intention to make users' life worse.
  - noosphr 6mo ago
    They are caused by moral busy bodies who think they know better. To quote CS Lewis: >Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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    - gchamonlive 6mo ago
      > They are caused by moral busy bodies who think they know better. If you know better just hack it your way. Linux is an open platform. Nothing prevents you from gutting Ubuntu and making it your own. You can't say the same for Windows though. So I guess is not a matter of monopoly of idiocy, but whether you can do something about idiot decisions when they are made. This is why an open platform will always win. It's just architecturally better for the end user.
      - fasterik 6mo ago
        >If you know better just hack it your way. While this might be technically true, I also think it's a lazy argument that ignores practical reality. It's basically a way to avoid any kind of accountability or self-reflection on the part of developers. "Users aren't happy? If they don't want to make the change themselves, they can fuck off." This is a toxic attitude which I see a lot in discussions of free software. In practice, 99% of the time it's not worth the time and effort to fork and maintain a large project. Even in a free ecosystem, users get locked into specific products and technologies. This is why sane technical leadership and responsiveness to user feedback are important, even (especially?) in open source projects.
        gchamonlive 6mo ago
        Can you tell me an instance where users got locked into a dying ecosystem in Linux? What I can tell you is that CentOS, which was used extensively in servers, died and you didn't really see much issue, at least not as much as compared to the pain and suffering users are having to go through now that Windows is the dying place. What's lazy is the repetition of this realist fallacy of the technical lockin, when in fact what you really have is what you see, an open platform you can very well just leave for another when you disagree with the current vendor. Dislike Ubuntu and you can very well migrate. That's the practical reality.
  - charcircuit 6mo ago
    There is plenty of elitism going on where everyday users' experience is intentionally made bad.
  - deathanatos 6mo ago
    … Linux literally just had the age-verification outcry, and the "let's put AI in Ubuntu" thing, and that's just off the top of my head. I want to toot the Linux horn too, and I do think MS is on another level here, but let's take a look in the mirror first.
  - red_admiral 6mo ago
    Intention or not, Gnome 3's "desktops are outdated" caused even Linus to switch away from it.
    - tapoxi 6mo ago
      He actually still uses GNOME, at least as recently as 5 months ago. I'm a KDE user but I get why people like it.
      - snowpid 6mo ago
        and I am a GNOME user and I find it totally fine to use KDE. Thats the cool thing about open plattforms. Just some people having too much time to make a UI interface part of their personality rant too much on the internet about other UI interfaces.
    - olyjohn 6mo ago
      What's your point? At least he was able to switch away from it and choose from any plethora of other options.
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- ninjagoo 6mo ago
  > My Ubuntu servers have been in an undefined state since canonical botched a regular upgrade to 26.04 LTS due to the ongoing DDOS. Their status page says everything works. A simple ping tells me nothing works. So is it the DDOS that's responsible, status page notwithstanding? Anyway, heard about Timeshift for Ubuntu on here, might be worth taking a look at it: https://github.com/linuxmint/timeshift https://github.com/linuxmint/timeshift Doesn't require a GUI, so it can be used for servers/headless too. Please note that's it's not a backup solution, just an OS snapshot one, albeit with scheduling.
- kelvinjps10 6mo ago
  You can download from a different mirror in linux and open source you always have another option
- Kamq 6mo ago
  > Let's not pretend Microsoft has a monopoly on idiocy in the software world. Entirely fair, but let's not pretend the situation is symmetrical. Canonical doesn't have monopoly on the linux or broader *nix world the same way that Microsoft has on the Windows world.
- LocalH 6mo ago
  normalize coming up through slackware like many did in the 90s
sagacity 6mo ago
Yeah, so, to be clear: I'm fairly sure Linux will also have its fair share of issues that I occasionally would have to repair. I don't necessarily even have a problem with Windows occasionally needing a bit of hand-holding, either. It sucks, but it's IT so meh, unfortunately it still comes with the territory. What I'm mostly pissed off about is the fact that I have a perfectly useable machine but since I'm unable to login due to vague Microsoft nonsense and there doesn't seem to be a way to fix it I need to reinstall. This seems wholly unnecessary. Even having some sort of repair installation that doesn't blow away all installed applications would have been somewhat ok as a last resort, but that doesn't exist either.
- chinathrow 6mo ago
  > Yeah, so, to be clear: I'm fairly sure Linux will also have its fair share of issues that I occasionally would have to repair. Issues with account, login and passwords would be none of them. Sure, there are other areas of common issues at times, but I have never, ever had issues logging into any of the linux OS I ran for the last 23years or so.
  - charcircuit 6mo ago
    I've had PAM break due to distro's ridiculous policy of updating the system in place allowing for invalid combinations of files to exist. I've had Linux distros break the booting process countless times.
- Krasnol 6mo ago
  I don't know where you are but oobe/bypassnro worked for me just 2 weeks ago.
  - sagacity 6mo ago
    I've reinstalled using this trick, so this issue won't bite me again in the future.
naikrovek 6mo ago
> When people advise you to switch to Linux if you can, they are giving solid advice. They absolutely are not. Switching operating systems isn't like switching toothpaste. They are declaring, without evidence, that you don't need Windows, without knowing if you do or not. They are avoiding the problem that the person is having entirely and asking that the user replace their single problem with a whole new class of problems that the user has no idea how to solve. And there will be problems, because someone who has never used Linux before isn't going to know how to do anything in Linux. They aren't going to know what software to use to do anything, they aren't going to know how to install software or update it, they aren't going to know what to do when any problem comes up at all. "Just switch to Linux" is a malevolent and self-serving recommendation, is absolutely not realistic, and is not ever intended to actually help the user needing help with a problem they are having.
deterministic 6mo ago
> When people advise you to switch to Linux if you can, they are giving solid advice. I am forced to use Linux at work and I dread updating anything because the result is usually a broken system. I never have that problem with Windows. So YMMV is as always valid here.

noosphr 6mo ago

My Ubuntu servers have been in an undefined state since canonical botched a regular upgrade to 26.04 LTS due to the ongoing DDOS. Their status page says everything works. A simple ping tells me nothing works. Let's not pretend Microsoft has a monopoly on idiocy in the software world. All major Linux distros are hell bent on repeating the mistakes of Windows. Especially since the people in control of the stack (minus the kernel) are the rejects who couldn't make it in Microsoft and Apple in the 90s and 00s but really wanted to. Meanwhile my small happy place with OpenBSD and Guix just works.

codedokode 6mo ago
Linux has lot of bugs and issues, but they are not caused by intention to make users' life worse.
- noosphr 6mo ago
  They are caused by moral busy bodies who think they know better. To quote CS Lewis: >Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
  - deleted 6mo ago
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  - gchamonlive 6mo ago
    > They are caused by moral busy bodies who think they know better. If you know better just hack it your way. Linux is an open platform. Nothing prevents you from gutting Ubuntu and making it your own. You can't say the same for Windows though. So I guess is not a matter of monopoly of idiocy, but whether you can do something about idiot decisions when they are made. This is why an open platform will always win. It's just architecturally better for the end user.
    - fasterik 6mo ago
      >If you know better just hack it your way. While this might be technically true, I also think it's a lazy argument that ignores practical reality. It's basically a way to avoid any kind of accountability or self-reflection on the part of developers. "Users aren't happy? If they don't want to make the change themselves, they can fuck off." This is a toxic attitude which I see a lot in discussions of free software. In practice, 99% of the time it's not worth the time and effort to fork and maintain a large project. Even in a free ecosystem, users get locked into specific products and technologies. This is why sane technical leadership and responsiveness to user feedback are important, even (especially?) in open source projects.
      - gchamonlive 6mo ago
        Can you tell me an instance where users got locked into a dying ecosystem in Linux? What I can tell you is that CentOS, which was used extensively in servers, died and you didn't really see much issue, at least not as much as compared to the pain and suffering users are having to go through now that Windows is the dying place. What's lazy is the repetition of this realist fallacy of the technical lockin, when in fact what you really have is what you see, an open platform you can very well just leave for another when you disagree with the current vendor. Dislike Ubuntu and you can very well migrate. That's the practical reality.
- charcircuit 6mo ago
  There is plenty of elitism going on where everyday users' experience is intentionally made bad.
- deathanatos 6mo ago
  … Linux literally just had the age-verification outcry, and the "let's put AI in Ubuntu" thing, and that's just off the top of my head. I want to toot the Linux horn too, and I do think MS is on another level here, but let's take a look in the mirror first.
- red_admiral 6mo ago
  Intention or not, Gnome 3's "desktops are outdated" caused even Linus to switch away from it.
  - tapoxi 6mo ago
    He actually still uses GNOME, at least as recently as 5 months ago. I'm a KDE user but I get why people like it.
    - snowpid 6mo ago
      and I am a GNOME user and I find it totally fine to use KDE. Thats the cool thing about open plattforms. Just some people having too much time to make a UI interface part of their personality rant too much on the internet about other UI interfaces.
  - olyjohn 6mo ago
    What's your point? At least he was able to switch away from it and choose from any plethora of other options.
- deleted 6mo ago
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ninjagoo 6mo ago
> My Ubuntu servers have been in an undefined state since canonical botched a regular upgrade to 26.04 LTS due to the ongoing DDOS. Their status page says everything works. A simple ping tells me nothing works. So is it the DDOS that's responsible, status page notwithstanding? Anyway, heard about Timeshift for Ubuntu on here, might be worth taking a look at it: https://github.com/linuxmint/timeshift https://github.com/linuxmint/timeshift Doesn't require a GUI, so it can be used for servers/headless too. Please note that's it's not a backup solution, just an OS snapshot one, albeit with scheduling.
kelvinjps10 6mo ago
You can download from a different mirror in linux and open source you always have another option
Kamq 6mo ago
> Let's not pretend Microsoft has a monopoly on idiocy in the software world. Entirely fair, but let's not pretend the situation is symmetrical. Canonical doesn't have monopoly on the linux or broader *nix world the same way that Microsoft has on the Windows world.
LocalH 6mo ago
normalize coming up through slackware like many did in the 90s

sagacity 6mo ago

Yeah, so, to be clear: I'm fairly sure Linux will also have its fair share of issues that I occasionally would have to repair. I don't necessarily even have a problem with Windows occasionally needing a bit of hand-holding, either. It sucks, but it's IT so meh, unfortunately it still comes with the territory. What I'm mostly pissed off about is the fact that I have a perfectly useable machine but since I'm unable to login due to vague Microsoft nonsense and there doesn't seem to be a way to fix it I need to reinstall. This seems wholly unnecessary. Even having some sort of repair installation that doesn't blow away all installed applications would have been somewhat ok as a last resort, but that doesn't exist either.

chinathrow 6mo ago
> Yeah, so, to be clear: I'm fairly sure Linux will also have its fair share of issues that I occasionally would have to repair. Issues with account, login and passwords would be none of them. Sure, there are other areas of common issues at times, but I have never, ever had issues logging into any of the linux OS I ran for the last 23years or so.
- charcircuit 6mo ago
  I've had PAM break due to distro's ridiculous policy of updating the system in place allowing for invalid combinations of files to exist. I've had Linux distros break the booting process countless times.
Krasnol 6mo ago
I don't know where you are but oobe/bypassnro worked for me just 2 weeks ago.
- sagacity 6mo ago
  I've reinstalled using this trick, so this issue won't bite me again in the future.

naikrovek 6mo ago

> When people advise you to switch to Linux if you can, they are giving solid advice. They absolutely are not. Switching operating systems isn't like switching toothpaste. They are declaring, without evidence, that you don't need Windows, without knowing if you do or not. They are avoiding the problem that the person is having entirely and asking that the user replace their single problem with a whole new class of problems that the user has no idea how to solve. And there will be problems, because someone who has never used Linux before isn't going to know how to do anything in Linux. They aren't going to know what software to use to do anything, they aren't going to know how to install software or update it, they aren't going to know what to do when any problem comes up at all. "Just switch to Linux" is a malevolent and self-serving recommendation, is absolutely not realistic, and is not ever intended to actually help the user needing help with a problem they are having.

deterministic 6mo ago

> When people advise you to switch to Linux if you can, they are giving solid advice. I am forced to use Linux at work and I dread updating anything because the result is usually a broken system. I never have that problem with Windows. So YMMV is as always valid here.