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What is the demographic looking to immigrate to Japan. I’m surprised to hear Chinese as my outsider view was that China was as good if not better place to live
by sashank_1509 6mo ago
What is the demographic looking to immigrate to Japan. I’m surprised to hear Chinese as my outsider view was that China was as good if not better place to live compared to China, is it because they’re afraid of their government and want a liberal democracy instead?
Or is folks from poorer and more distressed countries looking to come to Japan.
- SenHeng 6mo agoBetter passport for their kids, better and more reputable, internationally connected banking system to store their wealth. The latter bit is particularly important as China limits the amount of money one can send out of the country.
- decafninja 6mo agoHow would this give a passport to their kids? Isn’t Japanese citizenship notoriously difficult to obtain?
- SenHeng 6mo agoIt was always ridiculously easy to get Japanese citizenship. 5 years of residency, don’t break any laws including traffic, pay your bills on time. Done. It has recently been changed so that you now require 10 years of residency. https://www.turning-japanese.info/p/misinfo.html https://www.turning-japanese.info/p/misinfo.html
- daneel_w 6mo agoSo is it 5 or 10 years? Another person responding in this same branch says it used to be 10 but is now 5.
- alephnerd 6mo ago5 years. It's fairly easy to get. Sometimes it feels like half of the Beijing intelligentsia is in Tokyo now. Lots of Chinese academics, engineers, investment bankers, and others shifted to Tokyo in the past few years. Even the kinds of salons and meetups you used to see at Tsinghua or Peking have almost entirely transplanted in Jimbocho based on my friends account.
- SenHeng 6mo agoIt used to be 5, it’s now 10. It’s a very recent [0] and sudden change. O: https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20260327_11/ https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20260327_11/
- TimorousBestie 6mo agoI think it’s probably easier and safer for a Chinese national to obtain Japanese citizenship than American citizenship. If you’ve got ten years (or until recently, five) of residence and can pass the interview process, the acceptance rate for Japanese citizenship is something like 95%+. On the other hand the process of getting American citizenship can run up to twenty years or more, it’s very expensive, and throughout the process the immigrant has few rights and can be deported for basically no reason, up to the moments before the naturalization ceremony. If I were a freshman at Fudan thinking about my exit strategy, I know which one I would pick.
- SenHeng 6mo ago20 years ago Singapore was handing out PRs and citizenships to Chinese students like candy. All of my classmates got PR a few years out of school, then citizenship again 2 years later. And so many of them immediately moved on to the US.
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- dismalaf 6mo agoChina cracks down on corruption from time to time and lots of rich Chinese got their riches through corruption, so they're always looking for places to stash their ill gotten gains, their family and an offramp for themselves. Helping launder this dirty Chinese money is a huge business here in BC (Canada) and across the world.
- dismalaf 6mo agoToo late to edit but to add to my comment, it's also the reason this segment of Chinese buyer will massively overpay for real estate, visa pathways, etc... Western governments also look the other way since these people are defrauding China (our rival) and bringing money to the west.
- bamboozled 6mo agoI feel like that’s the kind of person this new Japanese business will benefit most. Rich money launderers who will enter at higher price point and plan to run shell businesses.
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