3 ms·

I'm surprised no one here talked about the junior side of the market yet. It's underrepresented on HN, but I would have still expected to see something. I'll sh

by tavavex 6mo ago

I'm surprised no one here talked about the junior side of the market yet. It's underrepresented on HN, but I would have still expected to see something. I'll share what I subjectively gathered from this job market. Senior devs, people with many years of experience, people who have had the chance to funnel themselves into something specialized are doing okay. It's still not as good as it once was, many still find themselves out of a job and unable to find another one without having to settle for worse conditions or a lower wage, but the squeeze isn't nearly as bad on them. For juniors and new grads, it's a bloodbath. The best people I know are sending hundreds of tailored job applications to try and get just about anything, and it's still almost impossible. Rates of applications to interviews are probably <1% for most people. Internships still help, but it's not as much of a difference as it once was. Everyone is desperate, and people are lowering their standards as far as they'll go, but employers are still not budging. Basically, it seems like the sides of the job market are diverging. People who are already in are usually still in. You're either doing great or living through the most hopeless and soul-crushing time of your professional life, with a small portion of outliers in either group.

toyetic 6mo ago
I have about 3 yoe and agree my friends who’ve gotten laid off took 6months to a year to get a new job and new graduated are taking about the same even longer. What’s interesting to me is what this looks like in 10 years when the lack of junior engineers and smaller amount of cs grads come to fruition
Tanoc 6mo ago
On the freelance side it's not much better. People who used to hire me back on project after project as a contractor aren't doing that anymore. I don't get replies stating what gaps in my skillset they're concerned about despite them asking me to tell them, I don't get information sent as to what the project entails, most of the time nobody even gets past the bidding process because they never update any contractors bidding on it. It's been about a year since I've had a big project, and my attempts to slide out of freelancer work and into the mines are all getting shafted. The longer I go without a big project, the more toxic my work history appears. At the same time, I can't find any big projects because either the ones who sent out the contract don't know the skillset needed or just don't post anything externally anymore. I'm on the very tiny side where projects pay $200 to $300 on completion and take a day or two from acceptance to submission, not triple digit salaries for months long rewrites. The smaller you go the worse it gets.

by tavavex 6mo ago

toyetic 6mo ago

I have about 3 yoe and agree my friends who’ve gotten laid off took 6months to a year to get a new job and new graduated are taking about the same even longer. What’s interesting to me is what this looks like in 10 years when the lack of junior engineers and smaller amount of cs grads come to fruition

Tanoc 6mo ago

On the freelance side it's not much better. People who used to hire me back on project after project as a contractor aren't doing that anymore. I don't get replies stating what gaps in my skillset they're concerned about despite them asking me to tell them, I don't get information sent as to what the project entails, most of the time nobody even gets past the bidding process because they never update any contractors bidding on it. It's been about a year since I've had a big project, and my attempts to slide out of freelancer work and into the mines are all getting shafted. The longer I go without a big project, the more toxic my work history appears. At the same time, I can't find any big projects because either the ones who sent out the contract don't know the skillset needed or just don't post anything externally anymore. I'm on the very tiny side where projects pay $200 to $300 on completion and take a day or two from acceptance to submission, not triple digit salaries for months long rewrites. The smaller you go the worse it gets.