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There's an inherent conflict. No one _wants_ to be tracked, there is no direct benefit to being tracked and only downsides. And advertisers want to track you. S

There's an inherent conflict. No one _wants_ to be tracked, there is no direct benefit to being tracked and only downsides. And advertisers want to track you. So there was no way to respect the flag other than making it obscure so only a few dedicated people turned it on.

xigoi 6mo ago
> No one _wants_ to be tracked Plenty of people seem to genuinely believe that “personalized ads” are good for them.
- Jaxan 6mo ago
  They are told to believe that.
- PunchyHamster 6mo ago
  and yet if they had question prompted to them even most of them would click "no"
  - maccard 6mo ago
    No, they don’t. They will click whichever option gets the modal out of the way.
- jampekka 6mo ago
  No-one is too absolute, but could ne used as a rough rule of thumb. Depending on the study, 0.16% to 7% want to get tracked. https://noyb.eu/sites/default/files/2025-07/Pay_or_Okay_Report_2025_web.pdf https://noyb.eu/sites/default/files/2025-07/Pay_or_Okay_Repo...
  - LocalH 6mo ago
    Lies, damned lies, and statistics
- drfloyd51 6mo ago
  I think getting ads that are relevant to me is better than compete nonsense. BUT, I also don’t want to give advertisers any information to do it. (Maybe A.S.L. is ok to share?) Yes. I know my two thoughts are in conflict, for the advertisers. Too bad for them. Figure it out.
socalgal2 6mo ago
To play devils advocate there is a direct benefit to being tracked, at least theoretically search and ads will more relevant to you. I get no one wants ads but you do see ads here and there. It would arguably be better for you if everyone of them was relevant than not. Similarly search or even LLM answers could be better if the preferences of the asker are known No, in not making excuses for tracking and I do lots of stuff myself of avoid being tracked I’m only responding to the false premise that there are no benefits. There are. You can just choose to believe they aren’t worth the cost. I believe they aren’t but I have friends who opt into all tracking and even register their presence with multiple apps. They believe they’ll make more positive connections
- Griffinsauce 6mo ago
  > theoretically > they believe Exactly. From my experience: the times I've found an ad relevant and worth clicking is about one-to-a-gazillion. Maybe relevance is higher for others but that still doesn't necessarily translate to real value. (ie. your life was improved in any way) Also, this all presumes the targeting actually works and the current sea ads for shoes I just bought disagree with that. It's all just spam.
LocalH 6mo ago
In other words, advertisers wrangled out of something that could help people because they claimed it wasn't the true intent of people? Advertisers are the scum of the Earth, as someone with ADHD who doesn't ever consent to my attention being stolen in that way. I really don't care what their opinion is, since they're intruding into my headspace without permission

xigoi 6mo ago

> No one _wants_ to be tracked Plenty of people seem to genuinely believe that “personalized ads” are good for them.

Jaxan 6mo ago
They are told to believe that.
PunchyHamster 6mo ago
and yet if they had question prompted to them even most of them would click "no"
- maccard 6mo ago
  No, they don’t. They will click whichever option gets the modal out of the way.
jampekka 6mo ago
No-one is too absolute, but could ne used as a rough rule of thumb. Depending on the study, 0.16% to 7% want to get tracked. https://noyb.eu/sites/default/files/2025-07/Pay_or_Okay_Report_2025_web.pdf https://noyb.eu/sites/default/files/2025-07/Pay_or_Okay_Repo...
- LocalH 6mo ago
  Lies, damned lies, and statistics
drfloyd51 6mo ago
I think getting ads that are relevant to me is better than compete nonsense. BUT, I also don’t want to give advertisers any information to do it. (Maybe A.S.L. is ok to share?) Yes. I know my two thoughts are in conflict, for the advertisers. Too bad for them. Figure it out.

socalgal2 6mo ago

To play devils advocate there is a direct benefit to being tracked, at least theoretically search and ads will more relevant to you. I get no one wants ads but you do see ads here and there. It would arguably be better for you if everyone of them was relevant than not. Similarly search or even LLM answers could be better if the preferences of the asker are known No, in not making excuses for tracking and I do lots of stuff myself of avoid being tracked I’m only responding to the false premise that there are no benefits. There are. You can just choose to believe they aren’t worth the cost. I believe they aren’t but I have friends who opt into all tracking and even register their presence with multiple apps. They believe they’ll make more positive connections

Griffinsauce 6mo ago
> theoretically > they believe Exactly. From my experience: the times I've found an ad relevant and worth clicking is about one-to-a-gazillion. Maybe relevance is higher for others but that still doesn't necessarily translate to real value. (ie. your life was improved in any way) Also, this all presumes the targeting actually works and the current sea ads for shoes I just bought disagree with that. It's all just spam.

LocalH 6mo ago

In other words, advertisers wrangled out of something that could help people because they claimed it wasn't the true intent of people? Advertisers are the scum of the Earth, as someone with ADHD who doesn't ever consent to my attention being stolen in that way. I really don't care what their opinion is, since they're intruding into my headspace without permission