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We are not fundamentally different. Chemical reactions are just math.
by SuperV1234 5mo ago
We are not fundamentally different. Chemical reactions are just math.
- rellfy 5mo agoWell, (in our current understanding) yes, but there may be underlying aspects of physics and the universe that we do not understand that could be the reason consciousness kicks in. It could turn out that LLMs do work similarly to how humans think, but as an abstracted system it does not have the low level requirements for consciousness.
- baggy_trough 5mo ago> it does not have the low level requirements for consciousness. What is the evidence for this?
- rellfy 5mo agoI didn’t mean it as fact. “Could turn out that …”
- vidarh 5mo agoWe do not know what the "low level requirements for consciousness" are. We do not know how to measure whether consciousness is present in an entity - even other humans - or whether it is just mimicry, nor whether there is a distinction between the two.
- unparagoned 5mo agoI think we know enough that consciousness acts at the neuron/brain level new physics isn’t going to provide any more insights
- kbrkbr 5mo ago"The universe is fundamentally just a complicated clockwork" Unknown Ptolemy disciple
- ekianjo 5mo agoAmusing statement since we are far from being able to understand chemical reactions in depth. Most of our knowledge in chemistry is empirical. Nothing like math.
- petters 5mo agoWe have a very good idea of all math behind chemistry. But the equations are very difficult to solve.
- ekianjo 5mo agoWe are not talking about the same thing. Not all chemical reactions are predictable like math is. Organic chemistry is full of lucky findings. Just look at how catalysts are discovered.
- slopinthebag 5mo agoNo, math is a tool that we can use to describe something more fundamental. Don't mistake the map for the territory!
- BoredomIsFun 5mo ago> Chemical reactions are just math. No, it is quantum mechanics. Physical world is not reducible to math, it has been long proven since early 20th century.
- unparagoned 5mo agoQm is described by maths. You have fully deterministic qm interpretations, which are fully determined by maths