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I saw a trend of UX/UI designers coming with practice which I knew better were wrong. But they insisted. E.g hijack brosser native controls. Will never know wh

by hirako2000 6mo ago

I saw a trend of UX/UI designers coming with practice which I knew better were wrong. But they insisted. E.g hijack brosser native controls. Will never know whether they passed along some manager/PM commandements or were just incompetent.

themanualstates 6mo ago
To be fair, the native browser controls have had too many quirks and features fox UX/UI consistency. Corporate needs their Brand™ look precisely as specified in their expensive Style Guide. IBM wouldn't want the Google vibes of Android Material Design TextFields, I imagine. Scratch beneath the visuals, and starker technical differences appear. Safari on iOS (used to?) has a 350ms debounce delay on every tap / click, in case you want to do a multitouch gesture. JavaScript (Frameworks) were the only way this arbitrary delay to user input could be reduced before 2015, when Apple finally released a native API for this. https://webkit.org/blog/5610/more-responsive-tapping-on-ios/ https://webkit.org/blog/5610/more-responsive-tapping-on-ios/
- eru 6mo ago
  > To be fair, the native browser controls have had too many quirks and features fox UX/UI consistency. Well, too many to have a single website be consistent across browsers. But as a user I'm using one specific browsers, and I expect all websites be consistent for that browser.
Terr_ 6mo ago
> But they insisted. E.g hijack brosser native controls. [Rant-Example] The goshdarn ticketing-system hijacks alt-f, so that instead of opening the File menu of my browser, and instead toggles the favorite-status of whatever ticket I happen to be viewing.
- walletdrainer 6mo ago
  Have you tried creating a ticket complaining about this?
  - cineticdaffodil 6mo ago
    Press alt f to pay respect with the "respect my AI.thority" subscription
  - Terr_ 6mo ago
    I did, and they probably don't care because they want everyone to use the electron app instead.
- twic 6mo ago
  A mistake was made early on even letting web apps see keystrokes like that. In a better world, modifier keys were used in a principled way from the start - only the window manager gets to see meta-anything, only the shell or GUI app gets to see control-anything, and web apps can work with alt-anything.

themanualstates 6mo ago

To be fair, the native browser controls have had too many quirks and features fox UX/UI consistency. Corporate needs their Brand™ look precisely as specified in their expensive Style Guide. IBM wouldn't want the Google vibes of Android Material Design TextFields, I imagine. Scratch beneath the visuals, and starker technical differences appear. Safari on iOS (used to?) has a 350ms debounce delay on every tap / click, in case you want to do a multitouch gesture. JavaScript (Frameworks) were the only way this arbitrary delay to user input could be reduced before 2015, when Apple finally released a native API for this. https://webkit.org/blog/5610/more-responsive-tapping-on-ios/ https://webkit.org/blog/5610/more-responsive-tapping-on-ios/

eru 6mo ago
> To be fair, the native browser controls have had too many quirks and features fox UX/UI consistency. Well, too many to have a single website be consistent across browsers. But as a user I'm using one specific browsers, and I expect all websites be consistent for that browser.

Terr_ 6mo ago

> But they insisted. E.g hijack brosser native controls. [Rant-Example] The goshdarn ticketing-system hijacks alt-f, so that instead of opening the File menu of my browser, and instead toggles the favorite-status of whatever ticket I happen to be viewing.

walletdrainer 6mo ago
Have you tried creating a ticket complaining about this?
- cineticdaffodil 6mo ago
  Press alt f to pay respect with the "respect my AI.thority" subscription
- Terr_ 6mo ago
  I did, and they probably don't care because they want everyone to use the electron app instead.
twic 6mo ago
A mistake was made early on even letting web apps see keystrokes like that. In a better world, modifier keys were used in a principled way from the start - only the window manager gets to see meta-anything, only the shell or GUI app gets to see control-anything, and web apps can work with alt-anything.