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By that logic it’s ok if the car slams itself against a concrete wall - just because it failed to stop in time doesn’t mean it wasn’t driving itself. Self driv
by loloquwowndueo 6mo ago
By that logic it’s ok if the car slams itself against a concrete wall - just because it failed to stop in time doesn’t mean it wasn’t driving itself.
Self driving cars are supposed to obey the same rules as human drivers.
- RajT88 6mo agoTesla FSD is vulnerable to RoadRunner and Wile E. Coyote style tricks.
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- qingcharles 6mo agoFortunately the ACME products are flawed and subject to their own litigation, see e.g. Coyote vs. ACME (2026).
- iknowstuff 6mo agoit's not. that vid was using autopilot, not fsd, and subsequent videos using actual new FSD were fine
- Marsymars 6mo ago> it's not. "Tesla FSD is invulnerable to tricks" is a pretty strong claim.
- iknowstuff 6mo agoSo is “Vulnerable to wilecoyote”
- roenxi 6mo agoWell ... yes. By that logic it is the case. It applies to humans too - if a human slams their car into a concrete wall then the human was still driving the car. They did a bad job of it, but they were in fact driving. A car being driven autonomously doesn't imply much about the quality of that driving. They're still going to make bad decisions and have accidents, just like humans do (a friend of mine died slamming their car into a tree). There is probably some minimum where we'd say that it isn't really driving because it can't do anything right, but modern self driving systems are past that.
- loloquwowndueo 6mo ago> A car being driven autonomously doesn't imply much about the quality of that driving Only that’s not what they’re selling us - they say autonomous cars are safer than humans, fewer accidents per mile driven, faster reaction times yadda yadda. I think this implies quality and not respecting speed limits is not something that sounds very high-quality. At least not while they have to share the road with humans.
- roenxi 6mo agoI'm just going to quote myself here: > (a friend of mine died slamming their car into a tree) Autonomous cars can run headlong into concrete walls and still be substantially better drivers than humans. There is no inherent contradiction there at all. They can speed and still be more law-abiding than humans too, humans get pretty casual about speed limits. I don't think you've grappled with just how bad humans are at operating rolling tin cans travelling at speeds evolution has not prepared us to move at. We're really bad at it. Autonomous cars aren't ever going to be perfect, they are merely a better alternative than humans.
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- charcircuit 6mo agoBoth statements can be true. Human vs self driving cars is a different classification between good and bad driving. Humans can slam into a wall too.