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A Principal Software Engineer at Microslop merged this - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmitriy-vasyura-9191611/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmitriy-vasyura-919161

by 650 5mo ago

A Principal Software Engineer at Microslop merged this - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmitriy-vasyura-9191611/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmitriy-vasyura-9191611/ This is the author of the MR - https://github.com/cwebster-99 https://github.com/cwebster-99 - A Product Manager at Microslop I've routinely spoken on the uselessness, and oftentimes detriment of product managers in tech. The dearth of leadership driving for vanity metrics like PMs writing code doesn't help either.

gopher_space 5mo ago
The role feels like it’s borne out of a desire to see employees as fungible.
ArmadilloGang 5mo ago
I can’t access that LinkedIn link without going through their Persona ID process, which requires all kinds of PII. > LinkedIn users attempting identity verification may be unknowingly handing sensitive personal data to Persona Identities Inc., a company that distributes information to government agencies, credit bureaus, utilities, and mobile providers. ^ Link from a LinkedIn page I found on a Kagi search. I can view some LinkedIn pages but not others without logging in. Even though I’ve never posted to LinkedIn it only use it as a public résumé, my account was flagged as needing identity verification. I’m pretty sure this happened a year or two ago when I changed my email address from one domain I owned to another domain I owned. I’ve never been able to log in since then, and there is no support path. The only available way past it is to simply submit all the info to Persona.
- dmitriv 5mo ago
  I'm here, what would you like to know?
  - bsuvc 5mo ago
    Why did you lock the comments on the GitHub issue? (Edit: I meant to say PR, not issue...)
    - dmitriv 5mo ago
      I didn't. I have locked the comments on a closed PR, and many of those comments were not constructive.
    - rmunn 5mo ago
      I'm not him, but it was pretty obvious that the comments section was going to be attracting more and more people saying the same thing that had already been said before, and that no useful discussion was going to be had. At some point the value of spamming everyone who commented on the issue with a notification (which puts an email in your inbox if you haven't changed the default setting) becomes lower and lower. I've seen that before on other issue comment threads. The repo owner says "Hey everyone, if you want an issue fixed, please upvote the issue with a thumbs up". And many people don't read that, and instead post "Please fix this" comments without giving a thumbs-up to the issue. So, 1) the repo owner doesn't get to use the "sort issues by # of thumbs-up reactions" to see the priority of that issue, and 2) everyone who has subscribed to the issue gets spammed with a message that's useless to them. Since nearly all the new comments had become "me too"-style comments, which should have just been a thumbs-up on a previous comment in order to reduce spam, I feel like locking the issue thread was the right move at that point, to stop people from receiving yet more unnecessary email in their already-overflowing inboxes.
      - dmitriv 5mo ago
        Thank you so much for explaining the exact reason I did it! I am reading all pings from GitHub on VS Code and this was just turning into a stream of spam that wasn't adding much new information.
        throw_await 5mo ago
        Why does it say "microsoft" locked the thread?
        rmunn 5mo ago
        Because the `microsoft` group account is the owner of the repo. With group accounts, you can designate many individuals to have admin access to the repo, but the actions taken by those admins will be attributed to the group account that owns the repo. (Because presumably the rest of the admins agree with the action taken, otherwise they would undo/revert it).
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dmitriv 5mo ago
I'm here in case you have something to say to me directly.
- wswope 5mo ago
  [flagged]
  - dang 5mo ago
    This is seriously not ok on HN. You can't attack others like this, regardless of how justified you are or feel you are, and we ban accounts that do. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: your account has unfortunately done this before (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47548889 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47548889). I don't want to ban you, so if you'd please review the site rules and not do anything like this again on HN, we'd appreciate it.
    - wswope 5mo ago
      Fair play; I got too personal here. Apologies.
      - dang 5mo ago
        Appreciated.
- unchar1 5mo ago
  What was the reasoning for this change?
  - dmitriv 5mo ago
    There are customers who would like to see attribution on changes where AI contributed (companies, users, etc). True, that's not everyone, but you can query our repo for the issues for which this feature was implemented. The rationale I suppose is those customers what to be more careful with code that was contributed by AI. HTH
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esafak 5mo ago
This is what happens when nontechnical people land production code in order to game their promotion metrics. I sense the PM in question is disconnected from the sensibilities of the users she ostensibly represents. Looking at her record I see she never worked as a programmer. But with four years in her current position she ought to have figured this much out. Strong AI incentives perhaps?

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gopher_space 5mo ago

The role feels like it’s borne out of a desire to see employees as fungible.

ArmadilloGang 5mo ago

I can’t access that LinkedIn link without going through their Persona ID process, which requires all kinds of PII. > LinkedIn users attempting identity verification may be unknowingly handing sensitive personal data to Persona Identities Inc., a company that distributes information to government agencies, credit bureaus, utilities, and mobile providers. ^ Link from a LinkedIn page I found on a Kagi search. I can view some LinkedIn pages but not others without logging in. Even though I’ve never posted to LinkedIn it only use it as a public résumé, my account was flagged as needing identity verification. I’m pretty sure this happened a year or two ago when I changed my email address from one domain I owned to another domain I owned. I’ve never been able to log in since then, and there is no support path. The only available way past it is to simply submit all the info to Persona.

dmitriv 5mo ago
I'm here, what would you like to know?
- bsuvc 5mo ago
  Why did you lock the comments on the GitHub issue? (Edit: I meant to say PR, not issue...)
  - dmitriv 5mo ago
    I didn't. I have locked the comments on a closed PR, and many of those comments were not constructive.
  - rmunn 5mo ago
    I'm not him, but it was pretty obvious that the comments section was going to be attracting more and more people saying the same thing that had already been said before, and that no useful discussion was going to be had. At some point the value of spamming everyone who commented on the issue with a notification (which puts an email in your inbox if you haven't changed the default setting) becomes lower and lower. I've seen that before on other issue comment threads. The repo owner says "Hey everyone, if you want an issue fixed, please upvote the issue with a thumbs up". And many people don't read that, and instead post "Please fix this" comments without giving a thumbs-up to the issue. So, 1) the repo owner doesn't get to use the "sort issues by # of thumbs-up reactions" to see the priority of that issue, and 2) everyone who has subscribed to the issue gets spammed with a message that's useless to them. Since nearly all the new comments had become "me too"-style comments, which should have just been a thumbs-up on a previous comment in order to reduce spam, I feel like locking the issue thread was the right move at that point, to stop people from receiving yet more unnecessary email in their already-overflowing inboxes.
    - dmitriv 5mo ago
      Thank you so much for explaining the exact reason I did it! I am reading all pings from GitHub on VS Code and this was just turning into a stream of spam that wasn't adding much new information.
      - throw_await 5mo ago
        Why does it say "microsoft" locked the thread?
        rmunn 5mo ago
        Because the `microsoft` group account is the owner of the repo. With group accounts, you can designate many individuals to have admin access to the repo, but the actions taken by those admins will be attributed to the group account that owns the repo. (Because presumably the rest of the admins agree with the action taken, otherwise they would undo/revert it).
- deleted 5mo ago
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dmitriv 5mo ago

I'm here in case you have something to say to me directly.

wswope 5mo ago
[flagged]
- dang 5mo ago
  This is seriously not ok on HN. You can't attack others like this, regardless of how justified you are or feel you are, and we ban accounts that do. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: your account has unfortunately done this before (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47548889 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47548889). I don't want to ban you, so if you'd please review the site rules and not do anything like this again on HN, we'd appreciate it.
  - wswope 5mo ago
    Fair play; I got too personal here. Apologies.
    - dang 5mo ago
      Appreciated.
unchar1 5mo ago
What was the reasoning for this change?
- dmitriv 5mo ago
  There are customers who would like to see attribution on changes where AI contributed (companies, users, etc). True, that's not everyone, but you can query our repo for the issues for which this feature was implemented. The rationale I suppose is those customers what to be more careful with code that was contributed by AI. HTH

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esafak 5mo ago

This is what happens when nontechnical people land production code in order to game their promotion metrics. I sense the PM in question is disconnected from the sensibilities of the users she ostensibly represents. Looking at her record I see she never worked as a programmer. But with four years in her current position she ought to have figured this much out. Strong AI incentives perhaps?