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This is false. It is only legal in the rare event that a passenger requires curb-side access for accessibility/ADA reasons; any other use is still illegal. To q

This is false. It is only legal in the rare event that a passenger requires curb-side access for accessibility/ADA reasons; any other use is still illegal. To quote SFMTA taxi training: Only drop off in a separated bike lane if you have disabled or elderly customers who require direct access to the curb  You may only pick up in a separated bike lane if the dispatcher tells you that the customer is disabled and must be picked up at a location that is next to a separated bike lane. Taxi drivers often intentionally misstate this regulation because it’s more annoying to follow the law and find a legal place to stop so they pretend they are allowed to use bike lanes for any reason.

BoorishBears 5mo ago
Woah you're being pretty misleading! That's for a separated bike lane, and Waymo doesn't even seem capable of doing it: that'd typically involve driving over/between the plastic bollards separating the lane... Waymo doesn't seem to be willing to drive on the wrong side of bollards and I've never seen a taxi do it either. - For non-separated bike lanes it's still a last resort, but it's allowed for all passengers not just the disabled. > Bicycle Safety > Passenger Loading: Non-Separated Bike Lanes >  May enter a non-separated bike lane with caution to drop off all customers (disabled and non-disabled)  Using bike lanes as an absolutely last resort [emphasis theirs, not mine] Waymo doesn't seem to do it when there are other options close nearby either, given the gaps in allowed pick up/drop off locations they offer by bike lanes - It would seem you're intentionally misstating the situation to villainize the driverless vehicles that otherwise l generally respect riders more than anyone else on the road... Actually weirdly enough, you had to read what I wrote to post this right? This is the same training doc you used? https://www.sfmta.com/sites/default/files/reports-and-documents/2023/03/2022_dec_new-driver_on-boarding-mona_20180618_-linked_video-r2.pdf https://www.sfmta.com/sites/default/files/reports-and-docume... Sperated bike lanes are illustrated and come after what I quoted :/
dlcarrier 5mo ago
Taxi training isn't a regulation. The California Vehicle Code is, and specifically section 22500 (https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=VEH&sectionNum=22500 https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio...) states which areas parking and standing is prohibited, without needing to expressly post signs or paint curbs to indicate a no parking zone, and it does not prohibit parking or standing in bike lanes.

BoorishBears 5mo ago

Woah you're being pretty misleading! That's for a separated bike lane, and Waymo doesn't even seem capable of doing it: that'd typically involve driving over/between the plastic bollards separating the lane... Waymo doesn't seem to be willing to drive on the wrong side of bollards and I've never seen a taxi do it either. - For non-separated bike lanes it's still a last resort, but it's allowed for all passengers not just the disabled. > Bicycle Safety > Passenger Loading: Non-Separated Bike Lanes >  May enter a non-separated bike lane with caution to drop off all customers (disabled and non-disabled)  Using bike lanes as an absolutely last resort [emphasis theirs, not mine] Waymo doesn't seem to do it when there are other options close nearby either, given the gaps in allowed pick up/drop off locations they offer by bike lanes - It would seem you're intentionally misstating the situation to villainize the driverless vehicles that otherwise l generally respect riders more than anyone else on the road... Actually weirdly enough, you had to read what I wrote to post this right? This is the same training doc you used? https://www.sfmta.com/sites/default/files/reports-and-documents/2023/03/2022_dec_new-driver_on-boarding-mona_20180618_-linked_video-r2.pdf https://www.sfmta.com/sites/default/files/reports-and-docume... Sperated bike lanes are illustrated and come after what I quoted :/

dlcarrier 5mo ago

Taxi training isn't a regulation. The California Vehicle Code is, and specifically section 22500 (https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=VEH&sectionNum=22500 https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio...) states which areas parking and standing is prohibited, without needing to expressly post signs or paint curbs to indicate a no parking zone, and it does not prohibit parking or standing in bike lanes.