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> And then set fire to the whole thing in an offering to their robot gods. It's the bourgeoisie dream: A means of production that also does the labor 24/7 and
by krainboltgreene 5mo ago
> And then set fire to the whole thing in an offering to their robot gods.
It's the bourgeoisie dream: A means of production that also does the labor 24/7 and can't complain, infinitely spawnable. Theoretical slavery+, so of course they're throwing everything into the furnace for it.
- outside1234 5mo agoBUT it is a trap: https://arxiv.org/html/2603.20617v1 https://arxiv.org/html/2603.20617v1
- whattheheckheck 5mo agoThis feels like the same mechanism for climate change. The actors dont care since they're not completely responsible for that outcome and benefit from ignoring it
- 2ndorderthought 5mo agoOne things for sure I won't be buying any SaaS, streaming, or ordering from Amazon if I have no future prospects for work. I already stopped most of my subscriptions because of a layoff unrelated to AI. We buy food and go for walks as entertainment. It's been refreshing but also obviously scary.
- sdevonoes 5mo agoDidn’t get the “scary” part. I also keep my entertainment to the minimum dependencies possible. I try to rely on stuff I own: music cds, iso videogames + emulators, physical books or ebooks (thanks Anna), exercise outdoors… ditching streaming like netflix/youtube, buying crap on amazon, uber, etc
- thephyber 5mo agoScary = “if I have no future prospects for work” It’s the combination of AI changing the workplace, the large techs shedding double digit headcount, recruiting / hiring departments being so broken by the AI arms race hitting job applications, and the macro business environment generally being on the downward slope at the moment.
- 2ndorderthought 5mo agoScary part is not having a job right now that's all. It's not scary walking around getting more vitamin d
- frm88 5mo agoAutomation tax solves all the problems? Seriously? The tax would go to retraining programs, according to the linked paper, so that workers can be reabsorbed into the workforce. Undiscussed conditio sine qua non: the economy has room for additional workforce, the government - as the distributor of said tax - has implemented sufficient legislation into social networks to ensure the tax goes to these programs and not another pointless war or subsidies for agriculture or tax relief for the rich. This paper proposes a solution for which the framework/base is missing.
- ryandrake 5mo agoThese next few years are the real turning point. If they are right about AI and robotic workforces, then it's checkmate--they don't need us anymore, and we're next for the furnace. If they're wrong... well, I don't know... Will there be any consequences? Maybe a few people lose a few percent of their net worth.
- HeavyStorm 5mo agoI guess if they are wrong the world economy crashes and burn again, because they wasted all these shiny dollars on infra build out. It's lose lose.
- bdangubic 5mo ago> Maybe a few people lose a few percent of their net worth. the entire US economy rides on this now so it’ll be more than few people and a lot more than few percent.
- le-mark 5mo agoGoogle will definitely lose. Llms supplants search. But not the old document search which they stopped doing long ago. Add in the fact that open weight models are 6-12 months behind frontier models means AI companies aren’t building a moat, they’re on a treadmill. And treadmills don’t justify the valuations OR the hype. AI companies are in trouble.
- storus 5mo agoI see one profitable enterprise for AI that involves spying on everyone, managing their lives (or otherwise) tightly, automating foreign conquests and needing to make only the top decisions while delegating everything else, like a king. I can see a group or one could say a class of people that would happily invest in such future.
- smaudet 5mo agoExactly. I keep saying, AI is not useful to us. There will be no AI companies. Even this supposed profitable enterprise, the people involved are absolutely too moronic to be able to control the thing they try to invent, it will just be a matter of time before it turns around and eliminates them as well...
- nz 5mo agoPeople (well, American people (disclosure, I am an American)), used to be scared/worried that Silicon Valley will eventually move to Bangalore or Shenzhen, because of wage-discrepancies, and so on -- and it is not a totally unreasonable concern, considering that the _Silicon_ part of Silicon Valley has been slowly relocated to Taipei, Seoul, Tokyo, and a few others. At this point, maybe we should start pushing that the _rest_ of Silicon Valley gets relocated somewhere else, too. It's a breeding ground for Edisons and Morgans, not Teslas. It is profoundly depressing that SV is doing everything it can (knowingly or unknowingly, not sure which is worse) to get the entire planet to stop taking it seriously and to shun it.
- 2ndorderthought 5mo agoNo country would want them.
- krupan 5mo agoIf you have worked in Silicon Valley you know that Bangalore and Shenzhen came here ;) In all seriousness, the silicon is still designed in Silicon Valley but maybe you don't hear about that as much? Broadcom, Qualcomm, Intel, Samsung, AMD, Nvidia, etc. all have a huge presence there still.
- nz 5mo agoI meant the actual fabrication of silicon ;) Just to emphasize my point, China is not being deprived of chip _designs_ (via export bans of ASML-made lithography equipment), but rather of the actual physical machines that rearrange the atoms.
- krupan 5mo agoDid the actual fabrication of silicon ever happen in Silicon Valley? If it did it left a loooong time ago
- pron 5mo agoTurns out it's not infinitely spawnable after all.
- krainboltgreene 5mo agoThere's a lot of flaws with their fantasy world, that's not even the most prominent one.