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This is pumping someone's metrics up inside of Microsoft, somewhere. The question is - will their boss revert it or encourage it when they discover the source

This is pumping someone's metrics up inside of Microsoft, somewhere. The question is - will their boss revert it or encourage it when they discover the source of the stats being juiced?

telchior 5mo ago
That someone saw Google's claim that 75% of their code is written with AI and said "hold my beer". Juiced stats? No such thing, at least as long as stock number go up.
- liquid_thyme 5mo ago
  >No such thing, at least as long as stock number go up. You want your 401k to go up, don't you? /s
k8sToGo 5mo ago
Isn't that someone the person who created the PR? "Product Manager at @microsoft working on VS Code and GitHub Copilot!" it says on her profile
whynotmaybe 5mo ago
Isn't it also cause they want to tag those commit so that they don't feed it into copilot training?
650 5mo ago
A Principal Software Engineer at Microslop merged this - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmitriy-vasyura-9191611/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmitriy-vasyura-9191611/ This is the author of the MR - https://github.com/cwebster-99 https://github.com/cwebster-99 - A Product Manager at Microslop I've routinely spoken on the uselessness, and oftentimes detriment of product managers in tech. The dearth of leadership driving for vanity metrics like PMs writing code doesn't help either.
- gopher_space 5mo ago
  The role feels like it’s borne out of a desire to see employees as fungible.
- ArmadilloGang 5mo ago
  I can’t access that LinkedIn link without going through their Persona ID process, which requires all kinds of PII. > LinkedIn users attempting identity verification may be unknowingly handing sensitive personal data to Persona Identities Inc., a company that distributes information to government agencies, credit bureaus, utilities, and mobile providers. ^ Link from a LinkedIn page I found on a Kagi search. I can view some LinkedIn pages but not others without logging in. Even though I’ve never posted to LinkedIn it only use it as a public résumé, my account was flagged as needing identity verification. I’m pretty sure this happened a year or two ago when I changed my email address from one domain I owned to another domain I owned. I’ve never been able to log in since then, and there is no support path. The only available way past it is to simply submit all the info to Persona.
  - dmitriv 5mo ago
    I'm here, what would you like to know?
    - bsuvc 5mo ago
      Why did you lock the comments on the GitHub issue? (Edit: I meant to say PR, not issue...)
      - dmitriv 5mo ago
        I didn't. I have locked the comments on a closed PR, and many of those comments were not constructive.
      - rmunn 5mo ago
        I'm not him, but it was pretty obvious that the comments section was going to be attracting more and more people saying the same thing that had already been said before, and that no useful discussion was going to be had. At some point the value of spamming everyone who commented on the issue with a notification (which puts an email in your inbox if you haven't changed the default setting) becomes lower and lower. I've seen that before on other issue comment threads. The repo owner says "Hey everyone, if you want an issue fixed, please upvote the issue with a thumbs up". And many people don't read that, and instead post "Please fix this" comments without giving a thumbs-up to the issue. So, 1) the repo owner doesn't get to use the "sort issues by # of thumbs-up reactions" to see the priority of that issue, and 2) everyone who has subscribed to the issue gets spammed with a message that's useless to them. Since nearly all the new comments had become "me too"-style comments, which should have just been a thumbs-up on a previous comment in order to reduce spam, I feel like locking the issue thread was the right move at that point, to stop people from receiving yet more unnecessary email in their already-overflowing inboxes.
harambee4ever 5mo ago
My first thought when I read this was that it was accidental. But the title of the PR looks like that they aren't even trying to hide it
- 7734128 5mo ago
  Never attribute malice as mistakes when it comes to Microsoft.

This is pumping someone's metrics up inside of Microsoft, somewhere. The question is - will their boss revert it or encourage it when they discover the source of the stats being juiced?

telchior 5mo ago

That someone saw Google's claim that 75% of their code is written with AI and said "hold my beer". Juiced stats? No such thing, at least as long as stock number go up.

liquid_thyme 5mo ago
>No such thing, at least as long as stock number go up. You want your 401k to go up, don't you? /s

k8sToGo 5mo ago

Isn't that someone the person who created the PR? "Product Manager at @microsoft working on VS Code and GitHub Copilot!" it says on her profile

whynotmaybe 5mo ago

Isn't it also cause they want to tag those commit so that they don't feed it into copilot training?

650 5mo ago

A Principal Software Engineer at Microslop merged this - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmitriy-vasyura-9191611/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmitriy-vasyura-9191611/ This is the author of the MR - https://github.com/cwebster-99 https://github.com/cwebster-99 - A Product Manager at Microslop I've routinely spoken on the uselessness, and oftentimes detriment of product managers in tech. The dearth of leadership driving for vanity metrics like PMs writing code doesn't help either.

gopher_space 5mo ago
The role feels like it’s borne out of a desire to see employees as fungible.
ArmadilloGang 5mo ago
I can’t access that LinkedIn link without going through their Persona ID process, which requires all kinds of PII. > LinkedIn users attempting identity verification may be unknowingly handing sensitive personal data to Persona Identities Inc., a company that distributes information to government agencies, credit bureaus, utilities, and mobile providers. ^ Link from a LinkedIn page I found on a Kagi search. I can view some LinkedIn pages but not others without logging in. Even though I’ve never posted to LinkedIn it only use it as a public résumé, my account was flagged as needing identity verification. I’m pretty sure this happened a year or two ago when I changed my email address from one domain I owned to another domain I owned. I’ve never been able to log in since then, and there is no support path. The only available way past it is to simply submit all the info to Persona.
- dmitriv 5mo ago
  I'm here, what would you like to know?
  - bsuvc 5mo ago
    Why did you lock the comments on the GitHub issue? (Edit: I meant to say PR, not issue...)
    - dmitriv 5mo ago
      I didn't. I have locked the comments on a closed PR, and many of those comments were not constructive.
    - rmunn 5mo ago
      I'm not him, but it was pretty obvious that the comments section was going to be attracting more and more people saying the same thing that had already been said before, and that no useful discussion was going to be had. At some point the value of spamming everyone who commented on the issue with a notification (which puts an email in your inbox if you haven't changed the default setting) becomes lower and lower. I've seen that before on other issue comment threads. The repo owner says "Hey everyone, if you want an issue fixed, please upvote the issue with a thumbs up". And many people don't read that, and instead post "Please fix this" comments without giving a thumbs-up to the issue. So, 1) the repo owner doesn't get to use the "sort issues by # of thumbs-up reactions" to see the priority of that issue, and 2) everyone who has subscribed to the issue gets spammed with a message that's useless to them. Since nearly all the new comments had become "me too"-style comments, which should have just been a thumbs-up on a previous comment in order to reduce spam, I feel like locking the issue thread was the right move at that point, to stop people from receiving yet more unnecessary email in their already-overflowing inboxes.

harambee4ever 5mo ago

My first thought when I read this was that it was accidental. But the title of the PR looks like that they aren't even trying to hide it

7734128 5mo ago
Never attribute malice as mistakes when it comes to Microsoft.