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The internet is such a Tragedy of the Commons… its citizens that act selfishly and in bad faith will slowly make it unusable.
by port11 6mo ago
The internet is such a Tragedy of the Commons… its citizens that act selfishly and in bad faith will slowly make it unusable.
- honktime 6mo agoIts pretty explicitly not a tragedy of the commons. Its a tragedy of the ruling class abusing the resources of the 'commons' to extract value. There is nothing 'commons' about trillion dollar companies extracting all available value from the labor of the working class. That's just the tragedy that'll bring around the death of society, the same tragedy that brings all other tragedys
- amusingimpala75 6mo agoThank you for describing the tragedy of the commons
- multjoy 6mo agoThe commons were never unregulated. This is a tragedy of enclosure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enclosure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enclosure
- port11 6mo agoWe might get stuck discussing semantics. Large parts of the internet remain public and open; but an incredibly vast part of it is a toxic wasteland. It’s true that many spaces people frequent are ‘enclosed’, but these are also less subject to the abuse taking place in the public and open areas.
- throw-the-towel 6mo agoThe commons in question is the internet itself.
- dyauspitr 6mo agoThere’s definitely lots of problems with the ruling class and wealth disparity. Perhaps the defining problems of our current age. That being said, so many of the plebs suck. Like 2% will ruin everything for everyone.
- throw-the-towel 6mo agoWhile a lot of the plebs do suck, a pleb who sucks causes way less problems than a big corp that sucks simply by virtue of not having too much resources.
- dyauspitr 6mo agoI agree. But whether you agree with me or not, most paradigm shifting changes come from billionaires/corps because they are the only ones with the money to pull off massive shifts. Most innovation is not grassroots and heavily funded by the “elites”. This is how most successful countries have been for atleast the last 100 years. So billionaires add a lot of value even as they cause a lot of pain. The solution in my mind is we absolutely need uncapped billionaires but they need to be effectively taxed (not like 90% but closer to 50%) and they have to have absolutely no influence on the government.
- dirasieb 6mo agotragedy of the commons with your ideological buzzwords sprinkled in, truly innovative
- codedokode 6mo agoNo, it is because citizen allow treating them like this.
- esseph 6mo ago> its citizens that act selfishly and in bad faith will slowly make it unusable It's rarely been the citizens that have been the problem, but the governments and companies that seek the use the network connection for their overwhelming benefit. Re (above): > Not on topic, but wow the internet has very quickly devolved into: click -> "making sure you're not a bot", click -> "making sure you're a human", click -> "COOKIES COOKIES COOKIES", click -> "cloudflare something something"
- fastball 6mo agowat. The protections in place that the OP is talking about are almost entirely due to (not government and company) bad actors.