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Oh but it will get worse. Legislation to force companies to install survtech in their devices/apps is already being pushed left and right. We are still screamin

by dsign 5mo ago

Oh but it will get worse. Legislation to force companies to install survtech in their devices/apps is already being pushed left and right. We are still screaming a little about it, but I think it's a matter of time before it gets normalized and the state goes for the next level, which will be to prosecute individuals who try to evade the surveillance net. The recent case with GrapheneOS[^1], while still far from being an example of it, it is sufficient to inspire some legislators... [^1] https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-organized-crime-preferred-phone-3573578/ https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-organized-crim...

microtonal 5mo ago
That's why we need to get as many people on surveillance-free devices as quickly as possible. 400K users [1] may be easy to ignore or make suspect, 4M is a little harder, 40M is a serious blip on the radar, 400M is a major force (one can dream). If you do not like surveillance capitalism (which enables government surveillance), get a compatible phone and install GrapheneOS now. Help family and friends get set up tomorrow. Make it a force too large to reckon with before the legislation is there (legislation is somewhat slow, so there is a window of opportunity). [1] https://x.com/GrapheneOS/status/2047321144601071673 https://x.com/GrapheneOS/status/2047321144601071673
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- coldtea 5mo ago
  People have been bending over for policies and changes with way more impact to their everyday lives and livelihoods, and they'll rise up for this? That's daydreaming.
  - microtonal 5mo ago
    Maybe not, but I have seen a quick rise in interest in GrapheneOS and other AOSP-based alternatives among tech people. I think the current state of the US has done a lot to make people more motivated.
    - dopidopHN2 5mo ago
      I'm running workshops to install linux on laptop or grapheneOS on pixels. The cool kids are doing it.
dyauspitr 5mo ago
I could care less about surveillance on my phone or the internet. I can just stop using the internet for anything besides the necessities. It’s physical, IRL surveillance that is a nightmare. You can’t escape it, there’s no way to opt out and consent doesn’t matter.
- frankharv 5mo ago
  I agree. Even if you walk by a FLOCK camera you are catalogued. Sickening bravado of these privacy stealing folk.
- iririririr 5mo ago
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- i_love_retros 5mo ago
  So you do care somewhat about surveillance on your devices then!
  - dyauspitr 5mo ago
    Where did I say that? The necessities? All the necessities are browser based. I can do that on Kali if I absolutely needed too.
    - bigyabai 5mo ago
      > Where did I say that? >> I could care less about surveillance I believe the parent is splitting hairs over your wording; if you didn't care at all, then you couldn't care less.
      - BLKNSLVR 5mo ago
        It's not splitting hairs it's the literal meaning of the words. It's confusing and clarification is necessary in order to work out how to engage with the comment.
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by dsign 5mo ago

microtonal 5mo ago

That's why we need to get as many people on surveillance-free devices as quickly as possible. 400K users [1] may be easy to ignore or make suspect, 4M is a little harder, 40M is a serious blip on the radar, 400M is a major force (one can dream). If you do not like surveillance capitalism (which enables government surveillance), get a compatible phone and install GrapheneOS now. Help family and friends get set up tomorrow. Make it a force too large to reckon with before the legislation is there (legislation is somewhat slow, so there is a window of opportunity). [1] https://x.com/GrapheneOS/status/2047321144601071673 https://x.com/GrapheneOS/status/2047321144601071673

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coldtea 5mo ago
People have been bending over for policies and changes with way more impact to their everyday lives and livelihoods, and they'll rise up for this? That's daydreaming.
- microtonal 5mo ago
  Maybe not, but I have seen a quick rise in interest in GrapheneOS and other AOSP-based alternatives among tech people. I think the current state of the US has done a lot to make people more motivated.
  - dopidopHN2 5mo ago
    I'm running workshops to install linux on laptop or grapheneOS on pixels. The cool kids are doing it.

dyauspitr 5mo ago

I could care less about surveillance on my phone or the internet. I can just stop using the internet for anything besides the necessities. It’s physical, IRL surveillance that is a nightmare. You can’t escape it, there’s no way to opt out and consent doesn’t matter.

frankharv 5mo ago
I agree. Even if you walk by a FLOCK camera you are catalogued. Sickening bravado of these privacy stealing folk.
iririririr 5mo ago
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i_love_retros 5mo ago
So you do care somewhat about surveillance on your devices then!
- dyauspitr 5mo ago
  Where did I say that? The necessities? All the necessities are browser based. I can do that on Kali if I absolutely needed too.
  - bigyabai 5mo ago
    > Where did I say that? >> I could care less about surveillance I believe the parent is splitting hairs over your wording; if you didn't care at all, then you couldn't care less.
    - BLKNSLVR 5mo ago
      It's not splitting hairs it's the literal meaning of the words. It's confusing and clarification is necessary in order to work out how to engage with the comment.
  - 5mo ago