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If Israel and USA did not attack Iran, there would have not been any need for all the weaponry US is selling UAE. You see 'providing security', I see stirring

If Israel and USA did not attack Iran, there would have not been any need for all the weaponry US is selling UAE. You see 'providing security', I see stirring instability and protection racket. Your Q.E.D. works only on yourself. You surely sound like heavily invested in UAE, and trying to convince yourself that all your investment is not going down the drain.

rramadass 6mo ago
Again, both your understanding and logic are flawed. Israel/USA did not attack Iran out-of-the-blue for no reason. It was because of Iran's troublesome actions over past many decades that its neighbours decided to align with US/Israel for protection. Your use of fanciful terms like "protection racket" exposes your cluelessness of the subject i.e. the centrality of Oil to the world economy and stability. Finally, your last line is a silly one with no bearing to reality or this discussion. As i said, i do not like FUD/ignorance being spread on important topics.
- don_esteban 6mo ago
  You can 'justify' the actions of Israel and USA, but in the same way Iran and others can 'justify' their actions. The fact is that USA has attacked Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, bombed Yemen and Syria. Add to that Israel's actions and the picture is rather clear. The 'justification' for a war against Iran is absurd - it would have had a bit of standing, if it had a chance to lead to stability in the region. However, it was absolutely clear to anybody who has at least a bit of understanding in regional and military matters that it will lead to major regional destruction and destabilization. And it did. And is still going on, with no end in sight. The end result is exactly opposite to the stated aims, and it has been rather obvious from the beginning. Yet, you stall parrot this absurd narrative. If I tell you that it is in your best interest to pay me for stuff that is going to protect you, and that I am going to settle in a room of your house to protect you from your neighbour. And then from that room I shoot at your neighbour, which provokes him to burn your house, which I have no way of stopping. Did I provide you security? Or you just paid a protection racket and got a burning house anyway? The last line was there, because I cannot imagine any other reason why would you repeatedly parrot obviously false narrative.
  - rramadass 6mo ago
    This is a different discussion from the original we started with i.e. your lack of knowledge of Oil economy, its importance to the world and the UAE's role in that. If you want a discussion on this topic open a new thread (instead of hiding here) have everybody engage and see what you get. You will be laughed out of the thread. With every comment of yours, your cluelessness about Oil Economy, Global Geopolitics, Military Matters, Islamic Fundamentalism etc. all relating to the Middle East (ME) countries becomes more and more apparent. What has happened to the ME countries after WWII is a result of their own misguided fixation on the destruction of Israel. Instead of coexisting like North Korea/South Korea, China/Taiwan, India/Pakistan etc. the fundamentalists in the ME countries ruined themselves and the Palestinian cause. Israel had offered a two-state solution for the Palestine problem many times, but every time the ME countries scuttled it thus making the ME wars inevitable. The US (the sole superpower) being Israel's ally and security guarantor meant that it will safeguard Israel by taking out its stated enemies which is what happened. Any collateral damage to world/oil economy etc. were managed and stabilized. The rest of the world does not care about the fate of the ME countries as long as their Oil needs are met. This is "Realpolitik" at play and is how geopolitics works. Hence now enlightened countries like UAE/Qatar/Oman/etc. have moved away from past policies and are charting their own independent courses. This is also why Saudi Arabia is fast-tracking its reforms to modernity. I can provide you with links to a dozen books/papers elaborating the above but i fear it will all be wasted given your breathtaking ignorance and unwillingness to learn. You seem to live in a fantasy world of your own making with no relevance to reality and how the world actually works.
    - don_esteban 5mo ago
      I bow to your grand understanding of Oil Economy, Global Geopolitics, Military Matters etc. Just somehow can't fathom how (with all your superior understanding) you can utter this nonsense: Any collateral damage to world/oil economy etc. were managed and stabilized. If you had not noticed, the oil and gas (and fertilizer, and aluminium, and helium) are still barely dripping, not flowing. And the end does not really appear in sight. The damage is definitively not managed and stabilized. My original point was that UAE raising their production capacity is irrelevant as long as Hormuz is not open, as the bypass pipeline is of limited capacity. The only relevant thing you were able to say (but not substantiate) is that surely UEA will be able to build a parallel pipeline in 2 years. Time will tell.

rramadass 6mo ago

Again, both your understanding and logic are flawed. Israel/USA did not attack Iran out-of-the-blue for no reason. It was because of Iran's troublesome actions over past many decades that its neighbours decided to align with US/Israel for protection. Your use of fanciful terms like "protection racket" exposes your cluelessness of the subject i.e. the centrality of Oil to the world economy and stability. Finally, your last line is a silly one with no bearing to reality or this discussion. As i said, i do not like FUD/ignorance being spread on important topics.

don_esteban 6mo ago
You can 'justify' the actions of Israel and USA, but in the same way Iran and others can 'justify' their actions. The fact is that USA has attacked Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, bombed Yemen and Syria. Add to that Israel's actions and the picture is rather clear. The 'justification' for a war against Iran is absurd - it would have had a bit of standing, if it had a chance to lead to stability in the region. However, it was absolutely clear to anybody who has at least a bit of understanding in regional and military matters that it will lead to major regional destruction and destabilization. And it did. And is still going on, with no end in sight. The end result is exactly opposite to the stated aims, and it has been rather obvious from the beginning. Yet, you stall parrot this absurd narrative. If I tell you that it is in your best interest to pay me for stuff that is going to protect you, and that I am going to settle in a room of your house to protect you from your neighbour. And then from that room I shoot at your neighbour, which provokes him to burn your house, which I have no way of stopping. Did I provide you security? Or you just paid a protection racket and got a burning house anyway? The last line was there, because I cannot imagine any other reason why would you repeatedly parrot obviously false narrative.
- rramadass 6mo ago
  This is a different discussion from the original we started with i.e. your lack of knowledge of Oil economy, its importance to the world and the UAE's role in that. If you want a discussion on this topic open a new thread (instead of hiding here) have everybody engage and see what you get. You will be laughed out of the thread. With every comment of yours, your cluelessness about Oil Economy, Global Geopolitics, Military Matters, Islamic Fundamentalism etc. all relating to the Middle East (ME) countries becomes more and more apparent. What has happened to the ME countries after WWII is a result of their own misguided fixation on the destruction of Israel. Instead of coexisting like North Korea/South Korea, China/Taiwan, India/Pakistan etc. the fundamentalists in the ME countries ruined themselves and the Palestinian cause. Israel had offered a two-state solution for the Palestine problem many times, but every time the ME countries scuttled it thus making the ME wars inevitable. The US (the sole superpower) being Israel's ally and security guarantor meant that it will safeguard Israel by taking out its stated enemies which is what happened. Any collateral damage to world/oil economy etc. were managed and stabilized. The rest of the world does not care about the fate of the ME countries as long as their Oil needs are met. This is "Realpolitik" at play and is how geopolitics works. Hence now enlightened countries like UAE/Qatar/Oman/etc. have moved away from past policies and are charting their own independent courses. This is also why Saudi Arabia is fast-tracking its reforms to modernity. I can provide you with links to a dozen books/papers elaborating the above but i fear it will all be wasted given your breathtaking ignorance and unwillingness to learn. You seem to live in a fantasy world of your own making with no relevance to reality and how the world actually works.
  - don_esteban 5mo ago
    I bow to your grand understanding of Oil Economy, Global Geopolitics, Military Matters etc. Just somehow can't fathom how (with all your superior understanding) you can utter this nonsense: Any collateral damage to world/oil economy etc. were managed and stabilized. If you had not noticed, the oil and gas (and fertilizer, and aluminium, and helium) are still barely dripping, not flowing. And the end does not really appear in sight. The damage is definitively not managed and stabilized. My original point was that UAE raising their production capacity is irrelevant as long as Hormuz is not open, as the bypass pipeline is of limited capacity. The only relevant thing you were able to say (but not substantiate) is that surely UEA will be able to build a parallel pipeline in 2 years. Time will tell.