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Parents are supposed to sleep when the baby sleeps. Industrial work culture does not allow this. One of the many things leading the "Western" lifestyle to extin

Parents are supposed to sleep when the baby sleeps. Industrial work culture does not allow this. One of the many things leading the "Western" lifestyle to extinction.

homeonthemtn 5mo ago
This is funny in how cut and dry it is. My friend, do you have kids? It's my theory that crying evolved as a trait because it forces parents to go find some place safe lest a predator finds them, thus ensuring the helpless kid can grow in safe environments. Note that there is no mention of sleep in there. That's bonus round if you get it.
irishcoffee 5mo ago
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watwut 5mo ago
Non western parents gets woken up in the night and sleep deprived ... and then have duties during the day while the baby sleeps
dbacar 5mo ago
The babies I know yet don't sleep like adults which means that you will be up at night at random hours that you are not used to and I think this has nothing to do with industrial work culture. That 6-8 hours of uninterrupted sleep is just a "dream" :). I recall, as a twins dad, I did not have 2+ hours of uninterrupted sleep till they are 2 years old. (This depends on the kid though).
- ozlikethewizard 5mo ago
  Prior to the industrial revolution polyphasic sleep was pretty standard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphasic_sleep https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphasic_sleep
  - dbacar 5mo ago
    That article does not say whether polyphasic sleep was standard because parents were synchronizing with their babies.
  - Ferret7446 5mo ago
    The polyphasic sleep schedule was aligned with darkness, not random times throughout the day. Daylight was far too valuable for that.
    - ozlikethewizard 5mo ago
      This varies, you still see some polyphasic sleep in countries that have very hot middle of the days, Greece + Spain off the top of my head. An intentional waste of daylight because the cooler mornings and evenings are better, but industrialisation has still reduced the frequency of these practices.
conception 5mo ago
More that babies are designed for the tribe/family/group to all share in the responsibility of caring for the baby. Though feeding schedules early on are still grueling.

Parents are supposed to sleep when the baby sleeps. Industrial work culture does not allow this. One of the many things leading the "Western" lifestyle to extinction.

homeonthemtn 5mo ago

This is funny in how cut and dry it is. My friend, do you have kids? It's my theory that crying evolved as a trait because it forces parents to go find some place safe lest a predator finds them, thus ensuring the helpless kid can grow in safe environments. Note that there is no mention of sleep in there. That's bonus round if you get it.

irishcoffee 5mo ago

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watwut 5mo ago

Non western parents gets woken up in the night and sleep deprived ... and then have duties during the day while the baby sleeps

dbacar 5mo ago

The babies I know yet don't sleep like adults which means that you will be up at night at random hours that you are not used to and I think this has nothing to do with industrial work culture. That 6-8 hours of uninterrupted sleep is just a "dream" :). I recall, as a twins dad, I did not have 2+ hours of uninterrupted sleep till they are 2 years old. (This depends on the kid though).

ozlikethewizard 5mo ago
Prior to the industrial revolution polyphasic sleep was pretty standard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphasic_sleep https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphasic_sleep
- dbacar 5mo ago
  That article does not say whether polyphasic sleep was standard because parents were synchronizing with their babies.
- Ferret7446 5mo ago
  The polyphasic sleep schedule was aligned with darkness, not random times throughout the day. Daylight was far too valuable for that.
  - ozlikethewizard 5mo ago
    This varies, you still see some polyphasic sleep in countries that have very hot middle of the days, Greece + Spain off the top of my head. An intentional waste of daylight because the cooler mornings and evenings are better, but industrialisation has still reduced the frequency of these practices.

conception 5mo ago

More that babies are designed for the tribe/family/group to all share in the responsibility of caring for the baby. Though feeding schedules early on are still grueling.