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What about the USA, or China?

by brandnewideas 5mo ago

cubefox 5mo ago
That's not a sentence. What do you mean with ", ..."?
- brandnewideas 5mo ago
  I've edited the comment
estimator7292 5mo ago
If you learn to read, the fragments "not just" and "etc" clearly answer your question. Yes, China and the US also participate in this. Everyone knows this. You are not clever or special for pointing it out, you're just being stupid and trying to distract from the conversation. Literally whataboutism. Classic FUD and distraction technique. Go somewhere else with this nonsesne.
Pay08 5mo ago
China is likely not doing it. Wikipedia is blocked by the great firewall.
- rdm_blackhole 5mo ago
  That's awfully naive. China's cyber units or state actors most likely have access to Wikipedia and are not bothered by the Great Firewall. The citizens on the other hand, I agree with you.
  - pixel_popping 5mo ago
    Citizens do/can have access to Wikipedia, that's also very naive, estimations range from 15-35% of the population using VPN but in practice, any IT business and all their staff are behind VPNs and it's completely tolerated. Almost all street markets sell those USB/QRcode to access unrestricted internet. Most people don't need a VPN as well, similarly to the US population not accessing much of the content from let say Austria, France, Germany... due to language barrier or just not caring at all.
- pixel_popping 5mo ago
  Anyone that does business with China understand that VPN usage is rampant (generally Shadowsocks with V2Ray and the likes, it's plug and play, ton of local companies sell it, on every markets you can buy as well), companies and people aren't actually limited by it, the people that don't circumvent it are often the ones not talking english, there is a huge tolerance as well for businesses, gov is completely aware of the mass "VPN" usage, lot of hotels as well provide you with solutions if you just ask and so-on.
- daneel_w 5mo ago
  Why wouldn't they be doing it? They are actively engaged in such campaigns in various other media for foreign audiences. Wikipedia being blocked for the Chinese general population doesn't mean The Party isn't targeting it to influence opinions of non-Chinese in exactly the same way, since it's a fantastic platform with incredible reach and an unrivaled level of trust from the public.
- flexagoon 5mo ago
  Chinese is one of the most popular languages on Wikipedia https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A6%96%E9%A1%B5 https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A6%96%E9%A1%B5
cpursley 5mo ago
US Army openly advertises pyops work: https://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/specialty-careers/special-ops/psychological-operations https://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/specialty-careers/sp...

What about the USA, or China?

cubefox 5mo ago

That's not a sentence. What do you mean with ", ..."?

brandnewideas 5mo ago
I've edited the comment

estimator7292 5mo ago

If you learn to read, the fragments "not just" and "etc" clearly answer your question. Yes, China and the US also participate in this. Everyone knows this. You are not clever or special for pointing it out, you're just being stupid and trying to distract from the conversation. Literally whataboutism. Classic FUD and distraction technique. Go somewhere else with this nonsesne.

Pay08 5mo ago

China is likely not doing it. Wikipedia is blocked by the great firewall.

rdm_blackhole 5mo ago
That's awfully naive. China's cyber units or state actors most likely have access to Wikipedia and are not bothered by the Great Firewall. The citizens on the other hand, I agree with you.
- pixel_popping 5mo ago
  Citizens do/can have access to Wikipedia, that's also very naive, estimations range from 15-35% of the population using VPN but in practice, any IT business and all their staff are behind VPNs and it's completely tolerated. Almost all street markets sell those USB/QRcode to access unrestricted internet. Most people don't need a VPN as well, similarly to the US population not accessing much of the content from let say Austria, France, Germany... due to language barrier or just not caring at all.
pixel_popping 5mo ago
Anyone that does business with China understand that VPN usage is rampant (generally Shadowsocks with V2Ray and the likes, it's plug and play, ton of local companies sell it, on every markets you can buy as well), companies and people aren't actually limited by it, the people that don't circumvent it are often the ones not talking english, there is a huge tolerance as well for businesses, gov is completely aware of the mass "VPN" usage, lot of hotels as well provide you with solutions if you just ask and so-on.
daneel_w 5mo ago
Why wouldn't they be doing it? They are actively engaged in such campaigns in various other media for foreign audiences. Wikipedia being blocked for the Chinese general population doesn't mean The Party isn't targeting it to influence opinions of non-Chinese in exactly the same way, since it's a fantastic platform with incredible reach and an unrivaled level of trust from the public.
flexagoon 5mo ago
Chinese is one of the most popular languages on Wikipedia https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A6%96%E9%A1%B5 https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E9%A6%96%E9%A1%B5

cpursley 5mo ago

US Army openly advertises pyops work: https://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/specialty-careers/special-ops/psychological-operations https://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/specialty-careers/sp...