5 ms·

How does a human designer even compete? I just looked at all the demos and they look beautiful. I hand designed my site https://www.nair.sh/ https://www.nair.s

by nilirl 5mo ago

How does a human designer even compete? I just looked at all the demos and they look beautiful. I hand designed my site https://www.nair.sh/ https://www.nair.sh/ and it feels like it doesn't even compare. Sure, there's some judgment as to what design is appropriate in a given situation, but it just feels like so much harder for a human's design to feel valuable now.

orphea 5mo ago
How do human artists compete with AI-gen images?
- nilirl 5mo ago
  Your point? It's an analogical problem. I love writing but even there I have to work doubly hard to make sure I'm doing something valuable. My point is that the space within which human creators can distinguish themselves is diminishing rapidly.
- ori_b 5mo ago
  Yes, we're building a dystopia where AIs do the work humans enjoy, and humans get to hold on to drudgery. What's not to like?
  - singpolyma3 5mo ago
    Nothing stops humans from doing what they enjoy
    - ori_b 5mo ago
      The amount of shit that I need to deal with so that I can pay the bills has gone up markedly, and promises to continue going up. The things the tech industry are building are making things worse for me. Please stop making my life worse.
exe34 5mo ago
Originality. The same as with art. Art and design are more than just a mean to satisfy a need. They are an opportunity to explore, to question. When Georges Seurat developed pointillism, he wasn't trying to compete with the people who could imitate Raphael. He created his own direction.
- nilirl 5mo ago
  Yes but you're talking about groundbreaking work. There's so much joy to be found in regular human creating and sharing. The creating part still remains because it's intrinsic but the sharing part feels discouraging now. Regular, non-groundbreaking creative work seems ... less worthy of sharing?
  - exe34 5mo ago
    > The creating part still remains because it's intrinsic but the sharing part feels discouraging now. Why? Is a chair that you made with your own hands not as valuable to you because somebody else got one from Ikea? Would you not show it to your friends for this reason?
    - nilirl 5mo ago
      Why would you pick an example that does not have AI as a competitor? If people could generate an infinite variety of chairs in a few seconds, than yes, my sharing would be discouraged.
      - exe34 5mo ago
        I can't draw. I'm learning to draw. I really don't give a flying toss if AI can generate pencil drawings of my loved ones. They'll know I made the effort myself.
        nilirl 5mo ago
        Why would you use an example that limits sharing to loved ones? Your point is thin.
esafak 5mo ago
Are you a designer? Everything AI does looks impressive if you are not familiar with it.
- nilirl 5mo ago
  You're right in that our expertise can see how this was not generated with the same kind of thoughtfulness that we might apply. But you're wrong in implying (if you are) that it's not valuable to be impressive to a non-expert.
  - esafak 5mo ago
    Or isn't it? You are one step away from deploying superficially impressive things, without understanding what is lacking.
    - nilirl 5mo ago
      Yes, lacking for the expert. To the non-expert, probably acceptable, even impressive.
      - esafak 5mo ago
        That is precisely my point. The non-expert won't know what is missing and will be impressed, and there might be a price to pay. How would you like to trust your data to my vibe coded database, safety to my vibe coded mechanical designs, and health to my vibed up diagnosis?
        nilirl 5mo ago
        What I'd said: it just feels like so much harder for a human's design to feel valuable now I'm talking about competition; being valuable within a market; being seen as useful by others. Maybe my focus on competition wasn't well communicated but you're making a precise but irrelevant point about personal integrity.
ModernMech 5mo ago
I feel the designs they present are actually quite bad. Like... they are an anti-ad for this product. Just random fonts, bold, italics, underlines. Bad contrast, skinny small fonts. Your site is actually really nice except the red color burns into my retina, so that's the only thing I would change about it (change your --primary to something more like #7c2c3e)
timacles 5mo ago
We are soon going to converge on all websites looking exactly the same, we’re almost there really It’s just the same sterile template used for everything, yeah it looks good first time you See it. But the 100th? It starts to look like noise

by nilirl 5mo ago

orphea 5mo ago

How do human artists compete with AI-gen images?

nilirl 5mo ago
Your point? It's an analogical problem. I love writing but even there I have to work doubly hard to make sure I'm doing something valuable. My point is that the space within which human creators can distinguish themselves is diminishing rapidly.
ori_b 5mo ago
Yes, we're building a dystopia where AIs do the work humans enjoy, and humans get to hold on to drudgery. What's not to like?
- singpolyma3 5mo ago
  Nothing stops humans from doing what they enjoy
  - ori_b 5mo ago
    The amount of shit that I need to deal with so that I can pay the bills has gone up markedly, and promises to continue going up. The things the tech industry are building are making things worse for me. Please stop making my life worse.

exe34 5mo ago

Originality. The same as with art. Art and design are more than just a mean to satisfy a need. They are an opportunity to explore, to question. When Georges Seurat developed pointillism, he wasn't trying to compete with the people who could imitate Raphael. He created his own direction.

nilirl 5mo ago
Yes but you're talking about groundbreaking work. There's so much joy to be found in regular human creating and sharing. The creating part still remains because it's intrinsic but the sharing part feels discouraging now. Regular, non-groundbreaking creative work seems ... less worthy of sharing?
- exe34 5mo ago
  > The creating part still remains because it's intrinsic but the sharing part feels discouraging now. Why? Is a chair that you made with your own hands not as valuable to you because somebody else got one from Ikea? Would you not show it to your friends for this reason?
  - nilirl 5mo ago
    Why would you pick an example that does not have AI as a competitor? If people could generate an infinite variety of chairs in a few seconds, than yes, my sharing would be discouraged.
    - exe34 5mo ago
      I can't draw. I'm learning to draw. I really don't give a flying toss if AI can generate pencil drawings of my loved ones. They'll know I made the effort myself.
      - nilirl 5mo ago
        Why would you use an example that limits sharing to loved ones? Your point is thin.

esafak 5mo ago

Are you a designer? Everything AI does looks impressive if you are not familiar with it.

nilirl 5mo ago
You're right in that our expertise can see how this was not generated with the same kind of thoughtfulness that we might apply. But you're wrong in implying (if you are) that it's not valuable to be impressive to a non-expert.
- esafak 5mo ago
  Or isn't it? You are one step away from deploying superficially impressive things, without understanding what is lacking.
  - nilirl 5mo ago
    Yes, lacking for the expert. To the non-expert, probably acceptable, even impressive.
    - esafak 5mo ago
      That is precisely my point. The non-expert won't know what is missing and will be impressed, and there might be a price to pay. How would you like to trust your data to my vibe coded database, safety to my vibe coded mechanical designs, and health to my vibed up diagnosis?
      - nilirl 5mo ago
        What I'd said: it just feels like so much harder for a human's design to feel valuable now I'm talking about competition; being valuable within a market; being seen as useful by others. Maybe my focus on competition wasn't well communicated but you're making a precise but irrelevant point about personal integrity.

ModernMech 5mo ago

I feel the designs they present are actually quite bad. Like... they are an anti-ad for this product. Just random fonts, bold, italics, underlines. Bad contrast, skinny small fonts. Your site is actually really nice except the red color burns into my retina, so that's the only thing I would change about it (change your --primary to something more like #7c2c3e)

timacles 5mo ago

We are soon going to converge on all websites looking exactly the same, we’re almost there really It’s just the same sterile template used for everything, yeah it looks good first time you See it. But the 100th? It starts to look like noise