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Moving, especially internationally, is disruptive. Even in bad times, you need to look to where things are going, not where they are in the moment. The USA is d

by ben_w 6mo ago

Moving, especially internationally, is disruptive. Even in bad times, you need to look to where things are going, not where they are in the moment. The USA is dropping on various freedom indices; if you move for this reason, you must ask if will it drop further, will it stabilise, or will it recover? And the same for the destinations you consider. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/human-rights-index-vdem?tab=line&country=USA~SGP https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/human-rights-index-vdem?t...

andsoitis 6mo ago
Great chart! Thanks. I used it to compare a couple of other places too. Yeah I don't see the gap between the US and Singapore closing in the next 5, 10, or 50 years. The current drop in the US is temporary. The lower score for Singapore is structural. EDIT: but these are "just" stats, and do not speak to any person's personal position, like Meng's.
- sergiosgc 6mo ago
  It's still to be determined if the drop is temporary. From the outside (EU) I see a downward uninterrupted trend since 9/11 and the Patriot Act.
  - andsoitis 6mo ago
    > It's still to be determined if the drop is temporary. It better be! I think it is wrong to root for “downfall”, even if it makes sense to diversify your risk.
    - sergiosgc 6mo ago
      Of course. I'm not rooting for the US' downfall. It is a loss of western values. It saddens me, but it is a fact they're veering away from the French Revolution principles.
      - Paradigm2020 6mo ago
        They are veering away from the American revolution principles... (Which preceded and directly inspired the french revolution principles)
- ben_w 6mo ago
  > EDIT: but these are "just" stats, and do not speak to any person's personal position, like Meng's. Oh indeed. There's unbounded ways to weight the different aspects of freedom that get combined into indices like this. As for the current drop in the US being temporary… well, we can all hope.

by ben_w 6mo ago

andsoitis 6mo ago

Great chart! Thanks. I used it to compare a couple of other places too. Yeah I don't see the gap between the US and Singapore closing in the next 5, 10, or 50 years. The current drop in the US is temporary. The lower score for Singapore is structural. EDIT: but these are "just" stats, and do not speak to any person's personal position, like Meng's.

sergiosgc 6mo ago
It's still to be determined if the drop is temporary. From the outside (EU) I see a downward uninterrupted trend since 9/11 and the Patriot Act.
- andsoitis 6mo ago
  > It's still to be determined if the drop is temporary. It better be! I think it is wrong to root for “downfall”, even if it makes sense to diversify your risk.
  - sergiosgc 6mo ago
    Of course. I'm not rooting for the US' downfall. It is a loss of western values. It saddens me, but it is a fact they're veering away from the French Revolution principles.
    - Paradigm2020 6mo ago
      They are veering away from the American revolution principles... (Which preceded and directly inspired the french revolution principles)
ben_w 6mo ago
> EDIT: but these are "just" stats, and do not speak to any person's personal position, like Meng's. Oh indeed. There's unbounded ways to weight the different aspects of freedom that get combined into indices like this. As for the current drop in the US being temporary… well, we can all hope.