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Trump says it's 'treasonous' to say US not winning war in Iran

20 points by 9dev 5mo ago

marysminefnuf 5mo ago
The us is not winning the war in iran The us is not winning the war in iran The us is not winning the war in iran There i committed the treason. Whens the execution?
jqpabc123 5mo ago
Actually, it is "treasonous" for a US president to label constitutionally protected speech as "treason". And in any case, the price of gasoline speaks for itself.
general1465 5mo ago
Ah yes, just one step from Russian laws against discrediting the army. That will show them when US will start arresting folks like Kimmel or Colbert for not peddling state propaganda! Russia jails stand-up comedian for six years over joke about wounded soldiers https://www.ynetnews.com/article/sk93lezvwl https://www.ynetnews.com/article/sk93lezvwl
- pseudohadamard 5mo ago
  It's actually quite useful, they can recycle all of the old Soviet jokes, e.g. "Did you hear about the Soviet joke competition? First prize, ten years. Second prize, five years".
tim-tday 5mo ago
This is how tyranny begins.
duxup 5mo ago
The fragility of the current administration is beyond “snowflake”.
johng 5mo ago
It is dumb of him to say that. But, I will say that Iran's only goal is to hold out as long as it can and exert political pressure to get the US to stop the blockade. If the political pressure goes away and the Iranian administration realizes that they either can't last or that political pressure won't work, they are much more likely to finally capitulate and negotiate/surrender and agree to terms. So, I certainly don't think it's treasonous, but a unified country all trying to achieve the same goal which is better for the whole world and Iranian citizens would end the conflict much faster. So, considering the above the more negative news about the US and it's war, the better it is for the Ayatollahs and the IRGC.
- techblueberry 5mo ago
  Given all the factors. I’m not sure whats better for who, which is why no one started a war with Iran before. I mean yes, best is the IRGC laying down its arms inviting pluralism and starting free and fair secular elections, but is that what’s on the table? It feels to me given the rational lack of trust on all sides, it’s a permanent stalemate. There’s no reason for any side, particularly Iran, to believe that a ceasefire would actually be respected. What outcome do you think a unified USA could realistically achieve that’s better for Iranian citizens and the world?
cyanydeez 5mo ago
US is not winning war in Iran; or any other varient thereof. Although, the skeptical part of me suggest Trump's backers don't want to win; they want economic pain and to continue trying to re-wire America's economy so the oligarchy has the same control as Russia's.
griffoa 5mo ago
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20 points by 9dev 5mo ago

The us is not winning the war in iran The us is not winning the war in iran The us is not winning the war in iran There i committed the treason. Whens the execution?

jqpabc123 5mo ago

Actually, it is "treasonous" for a US president to label constitutionally protected speech as "treason". And in any case, the price of gasoline speaks for itself.

general1465 5mo ago

Ah yes, just one step from Russian laws against discrediting the army. That will show them when US will start arresting folks like Kimmel or Colbert for not peddling state propaganda! Russia jails stand-up comedian for six years over joke about wounded soldiers https://www.ynetnews.com/article/sk93lezvwl https://www.ynetnews.com/article/sk93lezvwl

pseudohadamard 5mo ago
It's actually quite useful, they can recycle all of the old Soviet jokes, e.g. "Did you hear about the Soviet joke competition? First prize, ten years. Second prize, five years".

tim-tday 5mo ago

This is how tyranny begins.

duxup 5mo ago

The fragility of the current administration is beyond “snowflake”.

johng 5mo ago

It is dumb of him to say that. But, I will say that Iran's only goal is to hold out as long as it can and exert political pressure to get the US to stop the blockade. If the political pressure goes away and the Iranian administration realizes that they either can't last or that political pressure won't work, they are much more likely to finally capitulate and negotiate/surrender and agree to terms. So, I certainly don't think it's treasonous, but a unified country all trying to achieve the same goal which is better for the whole world and Iranian citizens would end the conflict much faster. So, considering the above the more negative news about the US and it's war, the better it is for the Ayatollahs and the IRGC.

techblueberry 5mo ago
Given all the factors. I’m not sure whats better for who, which is why no one started a war with Iran before. I mean yes, best is the IRGC laying down its arms inviting pluralism and starting free and fair secular elections, but is that what’s on the table? It feels to me given the rational lack of trust on all sides, it’s a permanent stalemate. There’s no reason for any side, particularly Iran, to believe that a ceasefire would actually be respected. What outcome do you think a unified USA could realistically achieve that’s better for Iranian citizens and the world?

cyanydeez 5mo ago

US is not winning war in Iran; or any other varient thereof. Although, the skeptical part of me suggest Trump's backers don't want to win; they want economic pain and to continue trying to re-wire America's economy so the oligarchy has the same control as Russia's.

griffoa 5mo ago

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