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You mean that page turn that was in no other reading apps before iBooks and is now in the Kindle app for iPhone? The one that doesn't exist on Sony e-Readers, A

You mean that page turn that was in no other reading apps before iBooks and is now in the Kindle app for iPhone? The one that doesn't exist on Sony e-Readers, Amazon Kindles, Kindle apps besides the iPhone one, Nooks, or any other reading device? So... Apple doesn't own page turning, or animating the turning of a page, just this specific implementation of it in this context. Which, for the record is something they did invent. Nobody else in the market was using a page turn animation, and it's the first thing people show off about iBooks. Yeah I'm just not feeling the outrage. I am getting more and more sick of this "Damn you patent system & Apple!" bullshit though.

Shamanmuni 14y ago
What? Nobody else was using it? Have you seen the Classics app for the iPhone? It appeared before iBooks and it had page turning. Apple even copied the bookshelf from them. It's no bullshit, the system is being abused. Silly and obvious things like a specific implementation of pagination in ebooks are being patented by a company who wants to go "thermonuclear" with its competitors. And many act like it's OK. Why? Because it's Apple? They didn't innovate at all with iBooks.
- Evbn 14y ago
  Delicious Library had bookshelves before the iPhone was invented. This whole conversation around drawing pictures of objects silly.
- shinratdr 14y ago
  > Have you seen the Classics app for the iPhone? Nope, neither did anyone else. I was talking about major e-book competitors, not every reading app ever made regardless of popularity. > Apple even copied the bookshelf from them. That's funny because if you ask the Delicious Library folks, they would say it was copied from them. Just goes to show that the concept of a digital bookshelf looking like a real bookshelf is a good one. > Silly and obvious things First of all, the best ideas are obvious once someone has thought of them. Of course we all want a minimal tablet, right? Well that's news to Microsoft who was letting 3rd parties sell Windows tablets for a decade. Not one of those tablets was minimal or boasted a clean design. Then Apple comes along and does it, everyone ridicules them, it sells like crazy. Now, suddenly it's obvious. As someone who has stood by them, it's hard to really give a shit that Apple is getting the patents they filed for. I find it much more bothersome that the rest of the tech industry gets to use Jony Ive as their hardware designer than Apple being afforded some small protection from what is slowly becoming an industry of clones. > And many act like it's OK. Why? Because they filed and were granted the patent. Where is the patent from the Classics team? Exactly. If you aren't going to even participate in the system, don't be surprised when things don't go your way.

Shamanmuni 14y ago

What? Nobody else was using it? Have you seen the Classics app for the iPhone? It appeared before iBooks and it had page turning. Apple even copied the bookshelf from them. It's no bullshit, the system is being abused. Silly and obvious things like a specific implementation of pagination in ebooks are being patented by a company who wants to go "thermonuclear" with its competitors. And many act like it's OK. Why? Because it's Apple? They didn't innovate at all with iBooks.

Evbn 14y ago
Delicious Library had bookshelves before the iPhone was invented. This whole conversation around drawing pictures of objects silly.
shinratdr 14y ago
> Have you seen the Classics app for the iPhone? Nope, neither did anyone else. I was talking about major e-book competitors, not every reading app ever made regardless of popularity. > Apple even copied the bookshelf from them. That's funny because if you ask the Delicious Library folks, they would say it was copied from them. Just goes to show that the concept of a digital bookshelf looking like a real bookshelf is a good one. > Silly and obvious things First of all, the best ideas are obvious once someone has thought of them. Of course we all want a minimal tablet, right? Well that's news to Microsoft who was letting 3rd parties sell Windows tablets for a decade. Not one of those tablets was minimal or boasted a clean design. Then Apple comes along and does it, everyone ridicules them, it sells like crazy. Now, suddenly it's obvious. As someone who has stood by them, it's hard to really give a shit that Apple is getting the patents they filed for. I find it much more bothersome that the rest of the tech industry gets to use Jony Ive as their hardware designer than Apple being afforded some small protection from what is slowly becoming an industry of clones. > And many act like it's OK. Why? Because they filed and were granted the patent. Where is the patent from the Classics team? Exactly. If you aren't going to even participate in the system, don't be surprised when things don't go your way.