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The models that make AI songs were trained on real musicians' copyrighted works, without permission. It's kinda shitty to steal someone's works, then use them
by bjt 5mo ago
The models that make AI songs were trained on real musicians' copyrighted works, without permission.
It's kinda shitty to steal someone's works, then use them to build a machine to also steal their jobs.
- threepts 5mo agoBruno Mars started as an Elvis Presley impersonator (likely without his permission as he was dead at that time), can we say he stole his job? People take ideas from other people all the time, my view is if machines do it, it isn't much of a different thing.
- xdennis 5mo agoAI nutters always use this argument that bots are merely doing what people are doing: "a person learning from 100 books is just the same as an LLM learning from 100 million books". If you own an apple tree, and (as is common in some countries) a child leans over your fence to grab an apple, you don't lose sleepless nights over it. But if a corporation comes over and leans over with its 10 meter long robotic arm and takes all your apples then it's a disaster. Scale matters. People don't care for small "losses" because we want other people to prosper. But AI steals from everyone and brings prosperity only to Amodei and Altman.
- threepts 5mo agoKnowledge is not an apple tree, my machine can read all the 100 million books and those 100 million books still remain there. You act like it's an zero sum game, it is not.
- avaer 5mo agoPeople have been killing people for ages, so nukes for everyone!
- qingcharles 5mo agoIs copyright infringement stealing? Is this even copyright infringement? These philosophical questions come up often. I'm not sure I know the answers.