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> Can Spotify actually become human- and artist-first? No, it can't. Its founder Daniel Ek is a war profiteer. He is by definition anti-human. Spotify itself

by coldpie 5mo ago

> Can Spotify actually become human- and artist-first? No, it can't. Its founder Daniel Ek is a war profiteer. He is by definition anti-human. Spotify itself is actively anti-artist. It has the lowest pay rates in the industry and is embracing AI replacing humans so they can pay humans even less. Stop using it and vote with your wallet. Literally any alternative you choose is an improvement for artists over Spotify. If you are strict about anti-AI, you might find Bandcamp appealing. https://blog.bandcamp.com/2026/01/13/keeping-bandcamp-human/ https://blog.bandcamp.com/2026/01/13/keeping-bandcamp-human/ More info: https://www.bloodinthemachine.com/p/a-complete-guide-to-quitting-spotify https://www.bloodinthemachine.com/p/a-complete-guide-to-quit... https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/artists-left-spotify-ceo-daniel-ek-military-tech-1235425098/ https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/artists-le... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Spotify https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Spotify https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Ek https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Ek https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helsing_(company) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helsing_(company)

Semaphor 5mo ago
Big Bandcamp fan, I get almost all my music from there. But their AI removal (well, or piracy removal for that matter) is rather lacking. Any action takes over a week, sometimes more. Just like with clear piracy (pre release leaks have been up for months), and when they do, they just remove it, whoever bought it is out of luck. I love the site, but they have a long way to go.
- jrumbut 5mo ago
  They have been great for what I use them for, occasion niche discoveries, but I'm not sure they replace Spotify for the "hop in my car and my favorite mainstream hits begin playing without having to think too hard about it" use case.
  - Semaphor 5mo ago
    Oh yeah, it's not for that at all. I only listen to albums, so I don't need that. Heard people using listenbrainz recs for similar things
  - 7jjjjjjj 5mo ago
    Isn't that what FM radio is for?
    - jrumbut 5mo ago
      It certainly was, but unfortunately FM radio has gotten pretty awful around me (which I find strange because we are in a fairly densely populated area). The only thing I listen to on the radio regularly are baseball games.
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sgskinner 5mo ago
> Literally any alternative you choose is an improvement Counterintuitive to me would be (1) not listening at all, or (2) torrenting. I suppose choosing (1) means Spotify has less leverage over the artist, but to the detriment of the artist since they don’t get that fraction of a cent. Additionally, that also means one less pair of ears discovering the artist. I suppose at least with torrenting the discovery aspect is preserved.
- 7jjjjjjj 5mo ago
  Both of those options are better because they don't involve giving your money to Spotify.

by coldpie 5mo ago

Semaphor 5mo ago

Big Bandcamp fan, I get almost all my music from there. But their AI removal (well, or piracy removal for that matter) is rather lacking. Any action takes over a week, sometimes more. Just like with clear piracy (pre release leaks have been up for months), and when they do, they just remove it, whoever bought it is out of luck. I love the site, but they have a long way to go.

jrumbut 5mo ago
They have been great for what I use them for, occasion niche discoveries, but I'm not sure they replace Spotify for the "hop in my car and my favorite mainstream hits begin playing without having to think too hard about it" use case.
- Semaphor 5mo ago
  Oh yeah, it's not for that at all. I only listen to albums, so I don't need that. Heard people using listenbrainz recs for similar things
- 7jjjjjjj 5mo ago
  Isn't that what FM radio is for?
  - jrumbut 5mo ago
    It certainly was, but unfortunately FM radio has gotten pretty awful around me (which I find strange because we are in a fairly densely populated area). The only thing I listen to on the radio regularly are baseball games.

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sgskinner 5mo ago

> Literally any alternative you choose is an improvement Counterintuitive to me would be (1) not listening at all, or (2) torrenting. I suppose choosing (1) means Spotify has less leverage over the artist, but to the detriment of the artist since they don’t get that fraction of a cent. Additionally, that also means one less pair of ears discovering the artist. I suppose at least with torrenting the discovery aspect is preserved.

7jjjjjjj 5mo ago
Both of those options are better because they don't involve giving your money to Spotify.