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Elon has publicly stated that he cares a great deal about safety. He has stated that the only safe models are those which align greatest with truth, that which

Elon has publicly stated that he cares a great deal about safety. He has stated that the only safe models are those which align greatest with truth, that which is in reality. In this, xAI has lived up, as it has proved to hallucinate least (or close to least) in benchmarks. If you read that, quote again, he is saying "how can you quantify safety in a card?"

WarmWash 5mo ago
The irony that the guy who lies incessantly for years now with empty promises about his businesses is most concerned with truth...
Aurornis 5mo ago
> If you read that, quote again, he is saying "how can you quantify safety in a card?" Everyone familiar with LLM research understands what is meant by “card”. He was being obtuse to try to dodge the question and simultaneously give performance for his fans.
- neuronexmachina 5mo ago
  For model cards in general, I have a suspicion that grok's training includes a fair amount of distillation off their competitors' models. That should be disclosed in a model card, and one of the reasons they likely don't want to release one.
  - Barbing 5mo ago
    Fair suspicion: ‘Savitt asked Musk if his artificial intelligence company, xAI, had ever “distilled” technology from OpenAI. Distillation is way of using one A.I. technology to create another, and it is not allowed by OpenAI’s terms of service. “Generally A.I. companies distill other A.I. companies,” Musk answered. “Is that a ‘yes’?” Savitt asked. Musk answered, “Partly.” Distillation has become an increasingly important issue as companies like OpenAI and Anthropic have complained that Chinese companies are distilling their systems.’ https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/04/30/technology/openai-trial-sam-altman-elon-musk https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/04/30/technology/openai-tr...
- Barbing 5mo ago
  He knew exactly what safety card meant?
Dezvous 5mo ago
Elon publicly states a lot of things, most of which aren't truthful.
danny_codes 5mo ago
Sure he does. That’s why he marketed full-self driving as safe and got a bunch of people killed
senordevnyc 5mo ago
I’m stating publicly that Elon is full of shit, and doesn’t give a single dry fuck about your safety.
kccoder 5mo ago
> Elon has publicly stated that he cares a great deal about safety. Elon lies more often than he tells the truth; why would you believe anything he says, especially if what he is saying indicates concern for anybody else's well being? He doesn't care about other people and likely is incapable of doing so.
DaiPlusPlus 5mo ago
> Elon has publicly stated that he cares a great deal about safety He doesn't. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jan/09/grok-undressing-women-children-us-action https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jan/09/grok-u...

WarmWash 5mo ago

The irony that the guy who lies incessantly for years now with empty promises about his businesses is most concerned with truth...

Aurornis 5mo ago

> If you read that, quote again, he is saying "how can you quantify safety in a card?" Everyone familiar with LLM research understands what is meant by “card”. He was being obtuse to try to dodge the question and simultaneously give performance for his fans.

neuronexmachina 5mo ago
For model cards in general, I have a suspicion that grok's training includes a fair amount of distillation off their competitors' models. That should be disclosed in a model card, and one of the reasons they likely don't want to release one.
- Barbing 5mo ago
  Fair suspicion: ‘Savitt asked Musk if his artificial intelligence company, xAI, had ever “distilled” technology from OpenAI. Distillation is way of using one A.I. technology to create another, and it is not allowed by OpenAI’s terms of service. “Generally A.I. companies distill other A.I. companies,” Musk answered. “Is that a ‘yes’?” Savitt asked. Musk answered, “Partly.” Distillation has become an increasingly important issue as companies like OpenAI and Anthropic have complained that Chinese companies are distilling their systems.’ https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/04/30/technology/openai-trial-sam-altman-elon-musk https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/04/30/technology/openai-tr...
Barbing 5mo ago
He knew exactly what safety card meant?

Dezvous 5mo ago

Elon publicly states a lot of things, most of which aren't truthful.

danny_codes 5mo ago

Sure he does. That’s why he marketed full-self driving as safe and got a bunch of people killed

senordevnyc 5mo ago

I’m stating publicly that Elon is full of shit, and doesn’t give a single dry fuck about your safety.

kccoder 5mo ago

> Elon has publicly stated that he cares a great deal about safety. Elon lies more often than he tells the truth; why would you believe anything he says, especially if what he is saying indicates concern for anybody else's well being? He doesn't care about other people and likely is incapable of doing so.

DaiPlusPlus 5mo ago

> Elon has publicly stated that he cares a great deal about safety He doesn't. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jan/09/grok-undressing-women-children-us-action https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jan/09/grok-u...