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It's incel-speak for dominating someone. "IQ-mogged" would mean that person A was dominated/overshadowed/etc. by person B because person B is very smart. "Hei

It's incel-speak for dominating someone. "IQ-mogged" would mean that person A was dominated/overshadowed/etc. by person B because person B is very smart. "Height-mogged" would mean the same, but due to height.

elicash 5mo ago
That I, an old person, know what it means suggests that it has already gone from (1) the incel or whatever community usage, to (2) ironic usage by others, and then finally to (3) widespread usage entirely divorced from the original meaning.
- alphawhisky 5mo ago
  Nah it kept it's meaning, just spread more. If anything, the level of abstraction grew. "Mogged' used to be a standalone phrase, but now it's always "___mogged".
  - elicash 5mo ago
    Maybe I phrased it poorly, but I just mean the context for it changed as it became mainstream. I wouldn't say it's still "incel-speak."
  - Ancapistani 5mo ago
    Before “mogged” was a standalone phrase, it was apparently “AMOG” - “Alpha Male of the Group”. I don’t remember knowing that before this conversation. I asked Claude for the history of the term, then for primary sources, and manually put the below together to show a history of the term over time: ———— Stage 1: “AMOG” == “Alpha male of the group”. > she is not yet into you and a AMOG upsurps you September 2003 https://web.archive.org/web/20231203102826/http://www.fastseduction.com/files/phrases/mystery_lounge/mystery_lounge_037.html https://web.archive.org/web/20231203102826/http://www.fastse... ———— Stage 2: “amogged” ~= “dominated” > He will never AMOG you agian. August 2005 https://web.archive.org/web/20240719094244/http://www.fastseduction.com/files/phrases/amog/amog_004.html https://web.archive.org/web/20240719094244/http://www.fastse... ———— Stage 3: “mogged” (transition to a word without the context of the original initialism) > Once thought invincible the mightly 6'8" 330 pound Martyn Ford is easily mogged upon May 2016 https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/37236240/ https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/37236240/ ———— Stage 4: “-mog” (noun), “-mogging” (verb) > he heightmogs hard December 2020 https://looksmax.org/threads/why-are-height-mogs-not-as-brutal-as-everyone-makes-them-out-to-be.253877/ https://looksmax.org/threads/why-are-height-mogs-not-as-brut...
- Blahah 5mo ago
  Nah you just know a young person or have found your way into an incel information stream. It doesn't mean you represent a large population.
  - elicash 5mo ago
    Then we're in (2) and I'm hip and ahead of the curve!
- Ancapistani 5mo ago
  Not to pry, but how old is “old”? I’m 42, and definitely don’t feel old yet - at least, my mind doesn’t feel old. My body is beginning to show me what’s it going to be like. I don’t think my generation is nearly as out of touch with youth and niche culture as our parents were. While there are definitely examples of slang that surprise me and for which I’ve not quite nailed down the colloquial usage, it’s extremely rare that I can’t infer the meaning from context. For that matter, I’ve adopted some of it where it makes sense. “-maxxing” is handy, and conveys more than “optimize for”; I might say I’m “tokenmaxxing” when I’m talking about intentionally using more costly inference than necessary because I’m not the one paying for it and the time necessary to optimize utilization isn’t worth it to me as a result. Basically implicitly recognizing that what I’m doing is ridiculous when viewed from the outside. The only slang I can think of that I’ve not fully understood is “type shit”. I get that it usually used as an affirmation of someone else’s statement - but not always. I think its exact semantics are likely still in flux, because I’ve heard it used to mean all kinds of unrelated things depending on tone. —- Thinking about this, I wonder if it’s not a continuation of the same processes that lead to the disappearance of many regional accents. That’s generally accepted to be happening, and caused by the rise of mass media (radio, TV, Internet). Maybe the Internet (social media in particular) has lumped everyone together in one giant community, and as a result slang no longer has time to solidly meaning in a niche group before reaching the general public.
  - LorenDB 5mo ago
    I'm guessing most people think that "old" is 10-20 years ahead of them, regardless of their age. So someone in their 20s thinks 40 is old, while someone in their 40s thinks 50 is old. Or something like that.
  - overfeed 5mo ago
    > The only slang I can think of that I’ve not fully understood is “type shit” It is mostly equivalent to "That's what's up."
    - darenr 5mo ago
      thought that was a synonym for typescript :)
chrisweekly 5mo ago
not just "incel" culture, at least not any more
- mcmcmc 5mo ago
  Yep thanks to the man-o-sphere incel culture has become mainstream for young men and boys
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Millennium 5mo ago
This is true, but there's an extra nuance: mogging isn't just dominance, but effortless dominance (or at least seemingly effortless). Incels use this to justify their aversion to putting effort of any sort into anything: if other people don't have to try, why should they?
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elicash 5mo ago

That I, an old person, know what it means suggests that it has already gone from (1) the incel or whatever community usage, to (2) ironic usage by others, and then finally to (3) widespread usage entirely divorced from the original meaning.

alphawhisky 5mo ago
Nah it kept it's meaning, just spread more. If anything, the level of abstraction grew. "Mogged' used to be a standalone phrase, but now it's always "___mogged".
- elicash 5mo ago
  Maybe I phrased it poorly, but I just mean the context for it changed as it became mainstream. I wouldn't say it's still "incel-speak."
- Ancapistani 5mo ago
  Before “mogged” was a standalone phrase, it was apparently “AMOG” - “Alpha Male of the Group”. I don’t remember knowing that before this conversation. I asked Claude for the history of the term, then for primary sources, and manually put the below together to show a history of the term over time: ———— Stage 1: “AMOG” == “Alpha male of the group”. > she is not yet into you and a AMOG upsurps you September 2003 https://web.archive.org/web/20231203102826/http://www.fastseduction.com/files/phrases/mystery_lounge/mystery_lounge_037.html https://web.archive.org/web/20231203102826/http://www.fastse... ———— Stage 2: “amogged” ~= “dominated” > He will never AMOG you agian. August 2005 https://web.archive.org/web/20240719094244/http://www.fastseduction.com/files/phrases/amog/amog_004.html https://web.archive.org/web/20240719094244/http://www.fastse... ———— Stage 3: “mogged” (transition to a word without the context of the original initialism) > Once thought invincible the mightly 6'8" 330 pound Martyn Ford is easily mogged upon May 2016 https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/37236240/ https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/37236240/ ———— Stage 4: “-mog” (noun), “-mogging” (verb) > he heightmogs hard December 2020 https://looksmax.org/threads/why-are-height-mogs-not-as-brutal-as-everyone-makes-them-out-to-be.253877/ https://looksmax.org/threads/why-are-height-mogs-not-as-brut...
Blahah 5mo ago
Nah you just know a young person or have found your way into an incel information stream. It doesn't mean you represent a large population.
- elicash 5mo ago
  Then we're in (2) and I'm hip and ahead of the curve!
Ancapistani 5mo ago
Not to pry, but how old is “old”? I’m 42, and definitely don’t feel old yet - at least, my mind doesn’t feel old. My body is beginning to show me what’s it going to be like. I don’t think my generation is nearly as out of touch with youth and niche culture as our parents were. While there are definitely examples of slang that surprise me and for which I’ve not quite nailed down the colloquial usage, it’s extremely rare that I can’t infer the meaning from context. For that matter, I’ve adopted some of it where it makes sense. “-maxxing” is handy, and conveys more than “optimize for”; I might say I’m “tokenmaxxing” when I’m talking about intentionally using more costly inference than necessary because I’m not the one paying for it and the time necessary to optimize utilization isn’t worth it to me as a result. Basically implicitly recognizing that what I’m doing is ridiculous when viewed from the outside. The only slang I can think of that I’ve not fully understood is “type shit”. I get that it usually used as an affirmation of someone else’s statement - but not always. I think its exact semantics are likely still in flux, because I’ve heard it used to mean all kinds of unrelated things depending on tone. —- Thinking about this, I wonder if it’s not a continuation of the same processes that lead to the disappearance of many regional accents. That’s generally accepted to be happening, and caused by the rise of mass media (radio, TV, Internet). Maybe the Internet (social media in particular) has lumped everyone together in one giant community, and as a result slang no longer has time to solidly meaning in a niche group before reaching the general public.
- LorenDB 5mo ago
  I'm guessing most people think that "old" is 10-20 years ahead of them, regardless of their age. So someone in their 20s thinks 40 is old, while someone in their 40s thinks 50 is old. Or something like that.
- overfeed 5mo ago
  > The only slang I can think of that I’ve not fully understood is “type shit” It is mostly equivalent to "That's what's up."
  - darenr 5mo ago
    thought that was a synonym for typescript :)

chrisweekly 5mo ago

not just "incel" culture, at least not any more

mcmcmc 5mo ago
Yep thanks to the man-o-sphere incel culture has become mainstream for young men and boys

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Millennium 5mo ago

This is true, but there's an extra nuance: mogging isn't just dominance, but effortless dominance (or at least seemingly effortless). Incels use this to justify their aversion to putting effort of any sort into anything: if other people don't have to try, why should they?

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