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Maybe im not in the target audience, but i had to look up what mogging is because its not explained anywhere

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nailer 6mo ago
I only heard of it due to a memecoin, and people trying to promote the memecoin using the ‘point at you, laughing cat’ emoji combo.
rout39574 6mo ago
The know your meme page on it is extensive. My distillation is: Mogging is behaving as though you expect everyone is going to think you're great because of how you look; in particular that you think you look better than someone right next to you.
imzadi 6mo ago
There's an interesting Behind the Bastards podcast about the rise of incel culture and its push into mainstream. It's called "From Elliot Rodger to Clavicular." They talk about the language of incels and how their vocabulary tends to end up in the mainstream at a surprising rate compared to other fringe cultures. "Mogging" is one of those terms that comes from incels.
- alphawhisky 6mo ago
  My theory is that these people are the stewards of internet culture. Moderators, meme creators, leaders of niche online communities. Therefore the jokes they make spread a lot more easily due to exposure.
  - imzadi 6mo ago
    I think part of it is that people use it ironically to make fun of incel culture but then it gets absorbed into our language unironically. Similar to how AAVE ends up in mainstream language because non-Black people use it ironically (more to make fun of themselves), but then it ends up becoming an everyday part of the language.
- ModernMech 6mo ago
  Damn I read that kid's manifesto, he was very messed up. It's crazy that there's a throughline from him to today. He should have been the wakeup call.
TrackerFF 6mo ago
It's incel-speak for dominating someone. "IQ-mogged" would mean that person A was dominated/overshadowed/etc. by person B because person B is very smart. "Height-mogged" would mean the same, but due to height.
- elicash 6mo ago
  That I, an old person, know what it means suggests that it has already gone from (1) the incel or whatever community usage, to (2) ironic usage by others, and then finally to (3) widespread usage entirely divorced from the original meaning.
  - alphawhisky 6mo ago
    Nah it kept it's meaning, just spread more. If anything, the level of abstraction grew. "Mogged' used to be a standalone phrase, but now it's always "___mogged".
    - elicash 6mo ago
      Maybe I phrased it poorly, but I just mean the context for it changed as it became mainstream. I wouldn't say it's still "incel-speak."
    - Ancapistani 6mo ago
      Before “mogged” was a standalone phrase, it was apparently “AMOG” - “Alpha Male of the Group”. I don’t remember knowing that before this conversation. I asked Claude for the history of the term, then for primary sources, and manually put the below together to show a history of the term over time: ———— Stage 1: “AMOG” == “Alpha male of the group”. > she is not yet into you and a AMOG upsurps you September 2003 https://web.archive.org/web/20231203102826/http://www.fastseduction.com/files/phrases/mystery_lounge/mystery_lounge_037.html https://web.archive.org/web/20231203102826/http://www.fastse... ———— Stage 2: “amogged” ~= “dominated” > He will never AMOG you agian. August 2005 https://web.archive.org/web/20240719094244/http://www.fastseduction.com/files/phrases/amog/amog_004.html https://web.archive.org/web/20240719094244/http://www.fastse... ———— Stage 3: “mogged” (transition to a word without the context of the original initialism) > Once thought invincible the mightly 6'8" 330 pound Martyn Ford is easily mogged upon May 2016 https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/37236240/ https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/37236240/ ———— Stage 4: “-mog” (noun), “-mogging” (verb) > he heightmogs hard December 2020 https://looksmax.org/threads/why-are-height-mogs-not-as-brutal-as-everyone-makes-them-out-to-be.253877/ https://looksmax.org/threads/why-are-height-mogs-not-as-brut...
Cthulhu_ 6mo ago
What I gathered is that "mog" is from "amog" which means "alpha male of the group", which makes "mogging" being "out-alpha'd". Which isn't new, it goes back years if not decades to the "alpha male" trends through "pick-up artists" to modern-day incel/bro/manosphere/etc subcultures. I know the author from about ten years ago and I'm not surprised he's into it. But also he's Dutch so it's probably used very much ironically / as a joke here.
- morkalork 6mo ago
  So, classic dick-waving or pissing contest behaviour?
throwaway902152 6mo ago
Classic mogging: https://www.youtube.com/@jacob_rees_mogg https://www.youtube.com/@jacob_rees_mogg
rsynnott 6mo ago
Although I have the misfortune of knowing what it means, every time I see it some part of my brain assumes it's something to do with cats (via British slang).
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I only heard of it due to a memecoin, and people trying to promote the memecoin using the ‘point at you, laughing cat’ emoji combo.

rout39574 6mo ago

The know your meme page on it is extensive. My distillation is: Mogging is behaving as though you expect everyone is going to think you're great because of how you look; in particular that you think you look better than someone right next to you.

imzadi 6mo ago

There's an interesting Behind the Bastards podcast about the rise of incel culture and its push into mainstream. It's called "From Elliot Rodger to Clavicular." They talk about the language of incels and how their vocabulary tends to end up in the mainstream at a surprising rate compared to other fringe cultures. "Mogging" is one of those terms that comes from incels.

alphawhisky 6mo ago
My theory is that these people are the stewards of internet culture. Moderators, meme creators, leaders of niche online communities. Therefore the jokes they make spread a lot more easily due to exposure.
- imzadi 6mo ago
  I think part of it is that people use it ironically to make fun of incel culture but then it gets absorbed into our language unironically. Similar to how AAVE ends up in mainstream language because non-Black people use it ironically (more to make fun of themselves), but then it ends up becoming an everyday part of the language.
ModernMech 6mo ago
Damn I read that kid's manifesto, he was very messed up. It's crazy that there's a throughline from him to today. He should have been the wakeup call.

TrackerFF 6mo ago

It's incel-speak for dominating someone. "IQ-mogged" would mean that person A was dominated/overshadowed/etc. by person B because person B is very smart. "Height-mogged" would mean the same, but due to height.

elicash 6mo ago
That I, an old person, know what it means suggests that it has already gone from (1) the incel or whatever community usage, to (2) ironic usage by others, and then finally to (3) widespread usage entirely divorced from the original meaning.
- alphawhisky 6mo ago
  Nah it kept it's meaning, just spread more. If anything, the level of abstraction grew. "Mogged' used to be a standalone phrase, but now it's always "___mogged".
  - elicash 6mo ago
    Maybe I phrased it poorly, but I just mean the context for it changed as it became mainstream. I wouldn't say it's still "incel-speak."
  - Ancapistani 6mo ago
    Before “mogged” was a standalone phrase, it was apparently “AMOG” - “Alpha Male of the Group”. I don’t remember knowing that before this conversation. I asked Claude for the history of the term, then for primary sources, and manually put the below together to show a history of the term over time: ———— Stage 1: “AMOG” == “Alpha male of the group”. > she is not yet into you and a AMOG upsurps you September 2003 https://web.archive.org/web/20231203102826/http://www.fastseduction.com/files/phrases/mystery_lounge/mystery_lounge_037.html https://web.archive.org/web/20231203102826/http://www.fastse... ———— Stage 2: “amogged” ~= “dominated” > He will never AMOG you agian. August 2005 https://web.archive.org/web/20240719094244/http://www.fastseduction.com/files/phrases/amog/amog_004.html https://web.archive.org/web/20240719094244/http://www.fastse... ———— Stage 3: “mogged” (transition to a word without the context of the original initialism) > Once thought invincible the mightly 6'8" 330 pound Martyn Ford is easily mogged upon May 2016 https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/37236240/ https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/37236240/ ———— Stage 4: “-mog” (noun), “-mogging” (verb) > he heightmogs hard December 2020 https://looksmax.org/threads/why-are-height-mogs-not-as-brutal-as-everyone-makes-them-out-to-be.253877/ https://looksmax.org/threads/why-are-height-mogs-not-as-brut...

Cthulhu_ 6mo ago

What I gathered is that "mog" is from "amog" which means "alpha male of the group", which makes "mogging" being "out-alpha'd". Which isn't new, it goes back years if not decades to the "alpha male" trends through "pick-up artists" to modern-day incel/bro/manosphere/etc subcultures. I know the author from about ten years ago and I'm not surprised he's into it. But also he's Dutch so it's probably used very much ironically / as a joke here.

morkalork 6mo ago
So, classic dick-waving or pissing contest behaviour?

throwaway902152 6mo ago

Classic mogging: https://www.youtube.com/@jacob_rees_mogg https://www.youtube.com/@jacob_rees_mogg

rsynnott 6mo ago

Although I have the misfortune of knowing what it means, every time I see it some part of my brain assumes it's something to do with cats (via British slang).

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