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Sure, then good like paying twice as much for the next Opus / Codex models. Margins are going up for the 2 frontier model providers like crazy, and I don't exp
by xiphias2 6mo ago
Sure, then good like paying twice as much for the next Opus / Codex models.
Margins are going up for the 2 frontier model providers like crazy, and I don't expect it to go down more, I think we have seen the cheapest token prices already.
- AntiUSAbah 6mo agoWe don't need Musk for this. There is plenty of Chinamodels, Mistral and co.
- Scroll_Swe 6mo agoMistral is just not as good, saying this as a European, sadly. I support them and would like to see them get better in their models, for chat especially as that is what I use. Dont use any CC, APIs etc. I avoid using and buying Chinese things due to the country. That is my view. They will turn on us too.
- culi 6mo agoMistral is trash rn but plenty of OSS models are on the Pareto destribution of performance vs price https://arena.ai/leaderboard/code?viewBy=plot https://arena.ai/leaderboard/code?viewBy=plot model ELO price claude-opus-4-7-thinking 1571 $20/M glm-5.1 1534 3.65 kimi-k2.6 1529 3.24 mimo-v2.5-pro 1479 2.50 qwen3.6-plus 1470 1.54 deepseek-v4-pro-thinking 1455 0.76 deepseek-v3.2-thinking 1368 0.35 In fact it seems the pareto distribution is actually all open source Chinese models except for one spot