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Yes, but J.R.R. Tolkien wrote a guide on this (after seeing a couple of really bad quality translations) which later translations benefited from: https://tolki

Yes, but J.R.R. Tolkien wrote a guide on this (after seeing a couple of really bad quality translations) which later translations benefited from: https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Guide_to_the_Names_in_The_Lord_of_the_Rings https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Guide_to_the_Names_in_The_Lo... that this was in _A Tolkien Compass_ which was one of the first books I purchased w/ my own money (along w/ _A Tolkien Reader_) is arguably a big part of why I chose to study languages early on in my life.

vi_sextus_vi 6mo ago
Pedantry: Tolkien's "Middle-Earth" is itself a "folksy mistranslation" Closer translation-- "Middle-Yard" Old English word eardgeard =Earth-Yard / ˈæ͜ɑrdˌjæ͜ɑrd / "ardyard" / https://www.theundergroundmap.com/article.html?id=104937 https://www.theundergroundmap.com/article.html?id=104937 https://english.nsms.ox.ac.uk/oecoursepack/wanderer/notes/note85a.html https://english.nsms.ox.ac.uk/oecoursepack/wanderer/notes/no...
- vintermann 6mo ago
  I guess that's where Tolkien's "Arda" comes from as well then.
- card_zero 6mo ago
  Or even garden.
  - lostlogin 6mo ago
    Thank you. I’m not American and was trying work that out. I went straight to metric and Middle Metre approximate and is wrong.
  - herewulf 6mo ago
    'garden' came into English via Old French but it's ultimately Frankish (another Germanic language) so 'yard' and 'garden' are cognates. Interestingly they have a close sense. https://www.etymonline.com/word/garden https://www.etymonline.com/word/garden
  - vi_sextus_vi 6mo ago
    "Nasty, British, and Small," screams the Hanging Yards of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon_(TV_series) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon_(TV_series)
SSLy 6mo ago
wish the link would let itself be read
- WillAdams 6mo ago
  _A Tolkien Compass_ is pretty affordable, and _The Lord of the Rings: A Readers Companion_ is quite a worthwhile text which is readily available --- see if your local library can provide?

vi_sextus_vi 6mo ago

Pedantry: Tolkien's "Middle-Earth" is itself a "folksy mistranslation" Closer translation-- "Middle-Yard" Old English word eardgeard =Earth-Yard / ˈæ͜ɑrdˌjæ͜ɑrd / "ardyard" / https://www.theundergroundmap.com/article.html?id=104937 https://www.theundergroundmap.com/article.html?id=104937 https://english.nsms.ox.ac.uk/oecoursepack/wanderer/notes/note85a.html https://english.nsms.ox.ac.uk/oecoursepack/wanderer/notes/no...

vintermann 6mo ago
I guess that's where Tolkien's "Arda" comes from as well then.
card_zero 6mo ago
Or even garden.
- lostlogin 6mo ago
  Thank you. I’m not American and was trying work that out. I went straight to metric and Middle Metre approximate and is wrong.
- herewulf 6mo ago
  'garden' came into English via Old French but it's ultimately Frankish (another Germanic language) so 'yard' and 'garden' are cognates. Interestingly they have a close sense. https://www.etymonline.com/word/garden https://www.etymonline.com/word/garden
- vi_sextus_vi 6mo ago
  "Nasty, British, and Small," screams the Hanging Yards of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon_(TV_series) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon_(TV_series)

SSLy 6mo ago

wish the link would let itself be read

WillAdams 6mo ago
_A Tolkien Compass_ is pretty affordable, and _The Lord of the Rings: A Readers Companion_ is quite a worthwhile text which is readily available --- see if your local library can provide?