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Here's the old English poem! https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/47296/caedmons-hymn-56d227a3b602f https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/47296/caedmons-hymn

Here's the old English poem! https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/47296/caedmons-hymn-56d227a3b602f https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/47296/caedmons-hymn-5... Should be in the public domain by now eh? Nu scilun herga hefenricæs uard metudæs mehti and his modgithanc uerc uuldurfadur sue he uundra gihuæs eci dryctin or astelidæ. he ærist scop ældu barnum hefen to hrofæ halig sceppend tha middingard moncynnæs uard eci dryctin æfter tiadæ firum foldu frea allmehtig I couldn't make hide nor hair of it without the translation, but with the translation I see quite a few more words than just "and his" that have stayed around: hefen: heaven uerc: work uard: guard/ward hrofæ: roof æfter: after middingard: Earth, to Marvel allmehtig: almighty

ButlerianJihad 6mo ago
Despite what The Poetry Foundation claims, and despite the Modern English translation by one of their own, the Early West Saxon text is Public Domain. Although The Poetry Foundation still promises to track all your content The OP article, published by Trinity College Dublin, and the original, and the photograph, are expressly CC-BY-ND 4.0. This is not a "free license", but it is a Creative Commons License. https://theconversation.com/we-found-a-lost-copy-of-the-earliest-surviving-english-poem-in-a-medieval-manuscript-in-rome-281086 https://theconversation.com/we-found-a-lost-copy-of-the-earl...
- conartist6 6mo ago
  It looks to me like Poetry Foundation did it right. The modern translation has a copyright notice, the Early West Saxon version has none. I was being a little coy as anything older than Mickey Mouse is fair game. It's not a particularly marginal call, if you know what I mean
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card_zero 6mo ago
I think also there's barnum = bairn's (as in children), and foldu = fold (as in sheepfold). Or just field, same thing.
- conartist6 6mo ago
  Huh, we don't have bairn in the US. I totally missed "foldu". The literal translation is that god made earth a pasture, then?

ButlerianJihad 6mo ago

Despite what The Poetry Foundation claims, and despite the Modern English translation by one of their own, the Early West Saxon text is Public Domain. Although The Poetry Foundation still promises to track all your content The OP article, published by Trinity College Dublin, and the original, and the photograph, are expressly CC-BY-ND 4.0. This is not a "free license", but it is a Creative Commons License. https://theconversation.com/we-found-a-lost-copy-of-the-earliest-surviving-english-poem-in-a-medieval-manuscript-in-rome-281086 https://theconversation.com/we-found-a-lost-copy-of-the-earl...

conartist6 6mo ago
It looks to me like Poetry Foundation did it right. The modern translation has a copyright notice, the Early West Saxon version has none. I was being a little coy as anything older than Mickey Mouse is fair game. It's not a particularly marginal call, if you know what I mean
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card_zero 6mo ago

I think also there's barnum = bairn's (as in children), and foldu = fold (as in sheepfold). Or just field, same thing.

conartist6 6mo ago
Huh, we don't have bairn in the US. I totally missed "foldu". The literal translation is that god made earth a pasture, then?