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Warp founder here. It's cool to see the community excitement here. Note that we are going to add bring-your-own-model directly into Warp. Would love interested

Warp founder here. It's cool to see the community excitement here. Note that we are going to add bring-your-own-model directly into Warp. Would love interested folks to weigh in on the discussion here: https://github.com/warpdotdev/warp/discussions/9619 https://github.com/warpdotdev/warp/discussions/9619

touristtam 5mo ago
Long overdue - I was all in a few years ago with Warp, but after the last couple of years of not addressing this need, I have moved on from Warp. I now DO NOT see the need to embed AI into the terminal when you can have all sorts of TUI doing the same job.
- helloplanets 5mo ago
  What about when SSHing to an external server, or working in a container?
  - rutierut 5mo ago
    This might have changed but Warp was not able to do this without “warpifying” the SSH host.
  - regularfry 5mo ago
    Nanobot will happily ssh to a host and do things on it. I'm sure that's just a skill away for pi or opencode.
    - embedding-shape 5mo ago
      Most if not every agent has access to bash or similar, which ssh typically is available. You don't need any bloated skills or anything, as long as you include `host is available via user@10.55` or whatever, and you have authentication properly setup, it'll figure it out.
    - ytjohn 5mo ago
      Confirming that Pi can definitely handles this. I've written a harness "factotum" based on pi just for managing my homelab and my radio club's systems. Has absolutely no issue sshing into things remotely, running ansible/helm/kubectl/talosctl commands. There's a few skills, a and an extension to switch inventory. The extension is only needed because I want to switch between the two organizations. It's pretty slick. One of my use cases was just getting my homelab under control. So one of the first tasks I gave it was to go find everything that's running on these hosts, system services, docker compose, kube pods, etc. Builds an inventory, memory, todos. Switches the script from "ai helps me launch more experiments to lose track of" to "organized and back under config management". .pi/factotum/ ├── active-profile ├── profiles │ ├── club │ │ ├── config.yaml │ │ ├── inventory │ │ │ └── hosts.yaml │ │ └── todos │ │ ├── 22a094a3.md │ │ ├── 427ad844.md │ │ ├── 4c185be7.md │ │ ├── 4d0eea0f.md │ │ └── bcf069a4.md │ ├── examples │ │ ├── config.yaml │ │ └── inventory │ │ └── hosts.yaml │ └── local │ ├── config.yaml │ ├── inventory │ │ └── hosts.yaml │ ├── memories │ │ ├── axel-services.md │ │ ├── fran-mydiffuser.md │ │ ├── fran-services.md │ │ ├── ruffclus-cluster.md │ │ └── ruffclus-paperless-ngx.md │ └── todos │ ├── 0f7fd63e.md │ ├── 75c82ceb.md │ ├── 9cb63594.md │ ├── af33e08f.md │ ├── ba490542.md │ ├── c09c144f.md │ ├── c5f7f8a8.md │ └── d4c4b287.md ├── schemas │ ├── PROJECT_ARCHITECTURE.md │ └── project-architecture.yaml ├── task-templates │ └── host-audit.yaml └── tools └── host_audit_runner.sh
      - iib 5mo ago
        How do you use `pi` to ssh? I use `oh-my-pi`, and tried the `/ssh` command, but I couldn't get it to work. Then I saw a suggestion somewhere to just run `!ssh` to place things into the agent's context. Is there a way to use it like "The current directory is at `ssh server`" and have the agent work from there?
    - cyanydeez 5mo ago
      so, to be clear, is it just doing random bash commands to runn ssh or is it a actual tool, eg, node-ssh command interface. i would not trust bash execution of SSH because it can easily hallucinate local commands instead of remote.
      - hrimfaxi 5mo ago
        > i would not trust bash execution of SSH because it can easily hallucinate local commands instead of remote. Why would it be more likely to hallucinate local commands instead of remote commands if it is in an active SSH session?
        cyanydeez 5mo ago
        I think you're reading into the statement. It can equally hallucinate commands. Fine. The problem is, if I'm working on a remote machine, I'm generally doing things that I'd be less concerned about. If I'm on a VPN and it rm -rf / while I'm trying to clean it up; bad break, but it's not _my machine_ it just removed root on. So if your LLM is just running something like `ssh <remote> "<cmd>"` it could easily foget the ssh <remote> part and suddenly you're modifying your local system. So it's one thing to YOLO on production servers, etc, but wiping out something locally is a significantly different event. Imagine it erasing all your scripts or whatever. Anyway, the point is: I wouldn't trust an agent operating with just a bash cli running ssh commands.
      - JeremyNT 5mo ago
        Background: I use OpenCode to do this. Just tell it to use ssh from the shell. From there you can give it extra context to describe the target (if you know/care about it), or just let it loose and if the environment doesn't have what it expects it will "figure something out" - just the same as with your local env. If there's some least common denominator you know about e.g. python it can streamline things if you tell it to just use that for everything.
        cyanydeez 5mo ago
        I don't think you understand. I'm well aware it can run whatever command on bash. You're taking a significant risk asking it to do what it's doing via ssh, because it could easily forget that it's suppose to be doing ssh and do whatever locally. The point is: opencode should have a specific deterministic tool like https://www.npmjs.com/package/node-ssh https://www.npmjs.com/package/node-ssh where commands can only be run; the environment can only be the remote; etc. The last thing I would want is for it to suddenly forget it's suppose to be running commands as ssh and does something local.
  - giancarlostoro 5mo ago
    I mean… Claude Code desktop will SSH into anything and start coding for ya. Which could sound horrifying but if you setup an isolated system for that specifically its not that horrifying.
  - hrimfaxi 5mo ago
    Hand your agent a tmux session.
  - SwellJoe 5mo ago
    I wrote a little wrapper to start tmux with two panes open, one pane is an ssh connection to a host and one runs Claude Code, with an auto-generated CLAUDE.md telling Claude to use tmux commands to interact with the remote host (https://github.com/swelljoe/tandem https://github.com/swelljoe/tandem). Agents can also use ssh, but I wanted an interactive way to poke around on a remote system and also be able to ask Claude to look at or do something on its own without copy/paste.
    - da_ordi_ 5mo ago
      I was looking at warp, wave, and a few others, and this is the exact stuff I will need, thanks for sharing. So when I SSH to remote servers, I would like to bring my agent buddy with me, currently, I open two terminals, one with a remote SSH session, and one with opencode/claude code, now I have to copy & paste commands/info between the 2 terminals, which can be anoyying, so that is why I was looking at warp, but it has a paywall for BYOK :)
- james2doyle 5mo ago
  Looks like there is a "neuter" fork out there: https://github.com/GarethCott/warp#whats-different-from-upstream https://github.com/GarethCott/warp#whats-different-from-upst...
sudb 5mo ago
Makes plenty of sense to upstream this (possibly makes more more than forking, although I suppose it's one way of gauging interest and implementation complexity).
- zero-lab 5mo ago
  Let me tell you a disturbing fact. The open source warp does not even have prompts. It is completely cloud-based, including the calling process of various tools in oz cloud. So I think it is better to change than to wait.
mark_l_watson 5mo ago
Will this require a paid plan? That is, could Warp, when modified, work with a local model on Ollama, no charge?
semiinfinitely 5mo ago
what is the point of an "ai-terminal" when you can already just directly run ai in a normal terminal your banner says: > Bring any AI model into your terminal its already there. there is no need for a special terminal to do this. in fact better to not have such a thing
- crooked-v 5mo ago
  Despite the newish "AI" branding for what I would presume is marketing buzz reasons, most of Warp is really centered around trying to make a terminal interface not anchored to legacy assumptions, like the blocks functionality (https://docs.warp.dev/terminal/blocks https://docs.warp.dev/terminal/blocks).
  - Zetaphor 5mo ago
    This page doesn't tell me anything useful about what this feature does or how it works. The attached screenshot is pointless. I assume the actual information is in the embedded Youtube video. YouTube is not an acceptable alternative to written documentation
hendersoon 5mo ago
That was exactly my question; why fork? I assumed the project owners were preserving their business model, but if you allow it to be opened-up and turn off the cloud features, I see no reason to fork.
kordlessagain 5mo ago
Cool will run this in Hyperia.

touristtam 5mo ago

Long overdue - I was all in a few years ago with Warp, but after the last couple of years of not addressing this need, I have moved on from Warp. I now DO NOT see the need to embed AI into the terminal when you can have all sorts of TUI doing the same job.

helloplanets 5mo ago
What about when SSHing to an external server, or working in a container?
- rutierut 5mo ago
  This might have changed but Warp was not able to do this without “warpifying” the SSH host.
- regularfry 5mo ago
  Nanobot will happily ssh to a host and do things on it. I'm sure that's just a skill away for pi or opencode.
  - embedding-shape 5mo ago
    Most if not every agent has access to bash or similar, which ssh typically is available. You don't need any bloated skills or anything, as long as you include `host is available via user@10.55` or whatever, and you have authentication properly setup, it'll figure it out.
  - ytjohn 5mo ago
    Confirming that Pi can definitely handles this. I've written a harness "factotum" based on pi just for managing my homelab and my radio club's systems. Has absolutely no issue sshing into things remotely, running ansible/helm/kubectl/talosctl commands. There's a few skills, a and an extension to switch inventory. The extension is only needed because I want to switch between the two organizations. It's pretty slick. One of my use cases was just getting my homelab under control. So one of the first tasks I gave it was to go find everything that's running on these hosts, system services, docker compose, kube pods, etc. Builds an inventory, memory, todos. Switches the script from "ai helps me launch more experiments to lose track of" to "organized and back under config management". .pi/factotum/ ├── active-profile ├── profiles │ ├── club │ │ ├── config.yaml │ │ ├── inventory │ │ │ └── hosts.yaml │ │ └── todos │ │ ├── 22a094a3.md │ │ ├── 427ad844.md │ │ ├── 4c185be7.md │ │ ├── 4d0eea0f.md │ │ └── bcf069a4.md │ ├── examples │ │ ├── config.yaml │ │ └── inventory │ │ └── hosts.yaml │ └── local │ ├── config.yaml │ ├── inventory │ │ └── hosts.yaml │ ├── memories │ │ ├── axel-services.md │ │ ├── fran-mydiffuser.md │ │ ├── fran-services.md │ │ ├── ruffclus-cluster.md │ │ └── ruffclus-paperless-ngx.md │ └── todos │ ├── 0f7fd63e.md │ ├── 75c82ceb.md │ ├── 9cb63594.md │ ├── af33e08f.md │ ├── ba490542.md │ ├── c09c144f.md │ ├── c5f7f8a8.md │ └── d4c4b287.md ├── schemas │ ├── PROJECT_ARCHITECTURE.md │ └── project-architecture.yaml ├── task-templates │ └── host-audit.yaml └── tools └── host_audit_runner.sh
    - iib 5mo ago
      How do you use `pi` to ssh? I use `oh-my-pi`, and tried the `/ssh` command, but I couldn't get it to work. Then I saw a suggestion somewhere to just run `!ssh` to place things into the agent's context. Is there a way to use it like "The current directory is at `ssh server`" and have the agent work from there?
  - cyanydeez 5mo ago
    so, to be clear, is it just doing random bash commands to runn ssh or is it a actual tool, eg, node-ssh command interface. i would not trust bash execution of SSH because it can easily hallucinate local commands instead of remote.
    - hrimfaxi 5mo ago
      > i would not trust bash execution of SSH because it can easily hallucinate local commands instead of remote. Why would it be more likely to hallucinate local commands instead of remote commands if it is in an active SSH session?
      - cyanydeez 5mo ago
        I think you're reading into the statement. It can equally hallucinate commands. Fine. The problem is, if I'm working on a remote machine, I'm generally doing things that I'd be less concerned about. If I'm on a VPN and it rm -rf / while I'm trying to clean it up; bad break, but it's not _my machine_ it just removed root on. So if your LLM is just running something like `ssh <remote> "<cmd>"` it could easily foget the ssh <remote> part and suddenly you're modifying your local system. So it's one thing to YOLO on production servers, etc, but wiping out something locally is a significantly different event. Imagine it erasing all your scripts or whatever. Anyway, the point is: I wouldn't trust an agent operating with just a bash cli running ssh commands.
    - JeremyNT 5mo ago
      Background: I use OpenCode to do this. Just tell it to use ssh from the shell. From there you can give it extra context to describe the target (if you know/care about it), or just let it loose and if the environment doesn't have what it expects it will "figure something out" - just the same as with your local env. If there's some least common denominator you know about e.g. python it can streamline things if you tell it to just use that for everything.
      - cyanydeez 5mo ago
        I don't think you understand. I'm well aware it can run whatever command on bash. You're taking a significant risk asking it to do what it's doing via ssh, because it could easily forget that it's suppose to be doing ssh and do whatever locally. The point is: opencode should have a specific deterministic tool like https://www.npmjs.com/package/node-ssh https://www.npmjs.com/package/node-ssh where commands can only be run; the environment can only be the remote; etc. The last thing I would want is for it to suddenly forget it's suppose to be running commands as ssh and does something local.
- giancarlostoro 5mo ago
  I mean… Claude Code desktop will SSH into anything and start coding for ya. Which could sound horrifying but if you setup an isolated system for that specifically its not that horrifying.
- hrimfaxi 5mo ago
  Hand your agent a tmux session.
- SwellJoe 5mo ago
  I wrote a little wrapper to start tmux with two panes open, one pane is an ssh connection to a host and one runs Claude Code, with an auto-generated CLAUDE.md telling Claude to use tmux commands to interact with the remote host (https://github.com/swelljoe/tandem https://github.com/swelljoe/tandem). Agents can also use ssh, but I wanted an interactive way to poke around on a remote system and also be able to ask Claude to look at or do something on its own without copy/paste.
  - da_ordi_ 5mo ago
    I was looking at warp, wave, and a few others, and this is the exact stuff I will need, thanks for sharing. So when I SSH to remote servers, I would like to bring my agent buddy with me, currently, I open two terminals, one with a remote SSH session, and one with opencode/claude code, now I have to copy & paste commands/info between the 2 terminals, which can be anoyying, so that is why I was looking at warp, but it has a paywall for BYOK :)
james2doyle 5mo ago
Looks like there is a "neuter" fork out there: https://github.com/GarethCott/warp#whats-different-from-upstream https://github.com/GarethCott/warp#whats-different-from-upst...

sudb 5mo ago

Makes plenty of sense to upstream this (possibly makes more more than forking, although I suppose it's one way of gauging interest and implementation complexity).

zero-lab 5mo ago
Let me tell you a disturbing fact. The open source warp does not even have prompts. It is completely cloud-based, including the calling process of various tools in oz cloud. So I think it is better to change than to wait.

mark_l_watson 5mo ago

Will this require a paid plan? That is, could Warp, when modified, work with a local model on Ollama, no charge?

semiinfinitely 5mo ago

what is the point of an "ai-terminal" when you can already just directly run ai in a normal terminal your banner says: > Bring any AI model into your terminal its already there. there is no need for a special terminal to do this. in fact better to not have such a thing

crooked-v 5mo ago
Despite the newish "AI" branding for what I would presume is marketing buzz reasons, most of Warp is really centered around trying to make a terminal interface not anchored to legacy assumptions, like the blocks functionality (https://docs.warp.dev/terminal/blocks https://docs.warp.dev/terminal/blocks).
- Zetaphor 5mo ago
  This page doesn't tell me anything useful about what this feature does or how it works. The attached screenshot is pointless. I assume the actual information is in the embedded Youtube video. YouTube is not an acceptable alternative to written documentation

hendersoon 5mo ago

That was exactly my question; why fork? I assumed the project owners were preserving their business model, but if you allow it to be opened-up and turn off the cloud features, I see no reason to fork.

kordlessagain 5mo ago

Cool will run this in Hyperia.