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Definitely disagree about rudeness. Only a trademark violation if a trademark has been registered. IANAL.

by BeetleB 6mo ago

illiac786 6mo ago
Mixing etiquette and copyright. It is not only rude but also misleading and frankly, stupid.
selcuka 6mo ago
https://uspto.report/TM/90342558 https://uspto.report/TM/90342558 > WARP® trademark registration is intended to cover the categories of [...] Downloadable computer terminal emulator program [...]
- ai_slop_hater 6mo ago
  How were they able to register it? So many other things are named Warp, for example Cloudflare Warp.
  - selcuka 6mo ago
    Cloudflare Warp is also trademarked: https://uspto.report/TM/88455403 https://uspto.report/TM/88455403 They are the same class (Class 009, software and electronic goods) but apparently the trademark examiner determined that a terminal app and VPN/security software are distinct enough not to cause a confusion.
SwellJoe 6mo ago
One can claim a trademark without registering it (the difference between ™ and ®). But, if one wanted to sue, you'd probably register it first. But, a claimed trademark that is suitably unique for your product is defensible if you can prove consistent usage pre-dating the new user of that mark. I'd be pissed if someone took one of my open source projects, forked it, and also stole the name (and put "Open" in front, despite the fact that the thing they forked is Open Source), misleading users and diluting the brand with software I have no control over. I don't even know what Warp is, but I'm mad as hell about it. As an Open Source developer of 30 years, I expect people to operate with something like honor and decency and respect for other people. Taking someone's open project and launching a competing fork with the same name is hugely disrespectful and dishonorable behavior.
ButlerianJihad 6mo ago
Here are some links to the official website of the actual United States Patent and Trademark Office, commonly and distinctly abbreviated "USPTO", whose domain name is duly registered at uspto.gov https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/search/search-results/90342560 https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/search/search-results/90342560 https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/search/search-results/90342558 https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/search/search-results/90342558 https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/search/search-results/88455403 https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/search/search-results/88455403 Search for "wordmark" "warp", filter for currently live and 009, shows 44 results. A search for "openwarp" yields 0 results, none dead, none historical; nowhere in the system is this unique name registered. A banner at top-of-page offers various pointers for consumers on how to discern official US Gov websites from imposters, domain squatters, and name-stealers

Definitely disagree about rudeness. Only a trademark violation if a trademark has been registered. IANAL.

by BeetleB 6mo ago

Definitely disagree about rudeness. Only a trademark violation if a trademark has been registered. IANAL.

illiac786 6mo ago

Mixing etiquette and copyright. It is not only rude but also misleading and frankly, stupid.

selcuka 6mo ago

https://uspto.report/TM/90342558 https://uspto.report/TM/90342558 > WARP® trademark registration is intended to cover the categories of [...] Downloadable computer terminal emulator program [...]

ai_slop_hater 6mo ago
How were they able to register it? So many other things are named Warp, for example Cloudflare Warp.
- selcuka 6mo ago
  Cloudflare Warp is also trademarked: https://uspto.report/TM/88455403 https://uspto.report/TM/88455403 They are the same class (Class 009, software and electronic goods) but apparently the trademark examiner determined that a terminal app and VPN/security software are distinct enough not to cause a confusion.

SwellJoe 6mo ago

One can claim a trademark without registering it (the difference between ™ and ®). But, if one wanted to sue, you'd probably register it first. But, a claimed trademark that is suitably unique for your product is defensible if you can prove consistent usage pre-dating the new user of that mark. I'd be pissed if someone took one of my open source projects, forked it, and also stole the name (and put "Open" in front, despite the fact that the thing they forked is Open Source), misleading users and diluting the brand with software I have no control over. I don't even know what Warp is, but I'm mad as hell about it. As an Open Source developer of 30 years, I expect people to operate with something like honor and decency and respect for other people. Taking someone's open project and launching a competing fork with the same name is hugely disrespectful and dishonorable behavior.

ButlerianJihad 6mo ago

Here are some links to the official website of the actual United States Patent and Trademark Office, commonly and distinctly abbreviated "USPTO", whose domain name is duly registered at uspto.gov https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/search/search-results/90342560 https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/search/search-results/90342560 https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/search/search-results/90342558 https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/search/search-results/90342558 https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/search/search-results/88455403 https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/search/search-results/88455403 Search for "wordmark" "warp", filter for currently live and 009, shows 44 results. A search for "openwarp" yields 0 results, none dead, none historical; nowhere in the system is this unique name registered. A banner at top-of-page offers various pointers for consumers on how to discern official US Gov websites from imposters, domain squatters, and name-stealers