> First it was "batteries will never scale to grid usage" You're inventing a straw man that's easier for you to attack. No goalposts are being moved. My poin

> First it was "batteries will never scale to grid usage" You're inventing a straw man that's easier for you to attack. No goalposts are being moved. My point was, and still is, that batteries do not presently scale sufficiently to make a predominantly wind and solar grid feasible, and our current projections even a decade out do not see them scale to that point either. We don't know if some breakthrough in battery chemistry will make it scale. Could such a breakthrough transpire? Sure. But will it happen? We don't know. And thus we should not gamble massive infrastructure spending on the assumption that this breakthrough will happen.