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You can do a thought experiment about an invisible pink dragon, that doesn't mean I have to take a position on it. "Suppose" is doing all the lifting. My positi
by jeremyjh 6mo ago
You can do a thought experiment about an invisible pink dragon, that doesn't mean I have to take a position on it. "Suppose" is doing all the lifting. My position is that experiment can't happen as described.
There is no algorithm for manipulating abstract symbols in a manner that "speaks chinese" without "understanding" it. The experiment bakes in the conclusion from the beginning.
- slopinthebag 6mo ago> My position is that experiment can't happen as described. Say you are the room and are passed symbols on paper, like the suits of playing cards. You use a book (lookup table) to transform series of symbols into a new symbol, and pass it out of the room to the observer. You get passed ♠ + ♣ and you return ♢. Do you have an understanding of the underlying concept? If so, reply and tell me what it is! But if you don't know what the underlying concept is, how could you argue that the person in the room does?