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> why do you think it's a bad idea to argue with a libertarian? Every time I argue with a libertarian, it's an endless series of "No True Scotsman" arguments.
by mbetter 14y ago
> why do you think it's a bad idea to argue with a libertarian?
Every time I argue with a libertarian, it's an endless series of "No True Scotsman" arguments.
- baddox 14y agoThat's odd. Can you give me an example of a common libertarian No True Scotsman argument?
- saraid216 14y agoWell, it's not really a pure free market system, so it doesn't count.
- Steko 14y agoHerbert Hoover was a huge activist big government Keynesian.
- vitno 14y agoyou do realize that is a valid argument though, right? The core concept of the no true scotsman argument is the wishy-washy definition of what is being debated. He isn't a true scotsman because a true scotsman would wear a kilt! something like that. If the definition of scotsman is "wears a kilt" the same way a libertarian would say "pure free market" then it is totally valid.
- mbetter 14y agoHe may wear a kilt, but he doesn't play the bagpipes, so he's no true Scotsman.
- praxeologist 14y agoProbably referring to you calling the US health care system free market...
- dconway 14y agoI could just as easily say that whenever one argues with a non-libertarian, he or she lays out an endless series of straw men. See how that works? "Your argument doesn't accurately represent my viewpoint" is what both No True Scotsman and straw men are about. So rather than opting out of an argument by calling "logical fallacy" on someone, why not clear up the definitions and be sure of what each other are talking about?