I think he's talking about some CL bashing implicit in our discussion. My intention was not to diss CL, just to say that it represents a different design philo

I think he's talking about some CL bashing implicit in our discussion. My intention was not to diss CL, just to say that it represents a different design philosophy that is somehow antagonistic to what's been the tradition in Scheme. Portability, practicality and completeness over minimalism, beauty, and perfectionism (within reasonable limits; there are some practical compromises in Scheme too). Both approaches have their advantages and their (overlapping) audiences. Now the RnRS name has been hijacked to refer to a totally different process, and by extension an attempt has been made to hijack the name Scheme for something that is a whole new Lisp dialect. I think the RnRS name has lost credibility, and I don't think the appropriation of the name Scheme will be successful. You'll hear the name Common Scheme a lot from now on. So no, it's not the same camp anymore. Enjoy your PLT, Chez, Larceny, or Scheme48, and best of lucks.