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> Nuclear disasters happen at old plants. You used plural? What disasters are you talking about? Even Chernobyl wasn't technically first generation (not that

by pqtyw 6mo ago

> Nuclear disasters happen at old plants. You used plural? What disasters are you talking about? Even Chernobyl wasn't technically first generation (not that it has anything to do with power plan safety in western countries anyway). Three Mile Island kind of proved it was fairly safe given that's the worst disaster to ever happen without any external factors (like tsunamis or being designed and run by soviet engineers..)

arijun 6mo ago
I may agree with your conclusion that old plants are safe enough (or at least take a deep dive study to see if their expected externality is worse than whatever would replace them). However: > the worst disaster to ever happen without any external factors The problem is external factors happen. You can’t just raise your hands up and say “wasn’t my fault,” when they do. A tsunami washing over a solar farm would be a lot safer than what happened at Fukushima.
- BurningFrog 6mo ago
  The Fukushima quake was a truly extraordinary outlier though! 4th biggest quake ever recorded in history hit at the exact spot where the tsunami could overpower the protective wall at the reactor. Yet nobody died from the radiation. Meanwhile the 20k people who died in the tsunami are forgotten. No one demands we stop building cities by the ocean.
  - throwaway2037 6mo ago
    > Meanwhile the 20k people who died in the tsunami are forgotten. You are wrong. They are not forgotten.
goodpoint 6mo ago
I lost count at 50 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_nuclear_disasters_and_radioactive_incidents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_nuclear_disasters_and...
- tremon 6mo ago
  That list includes: - a nuclear missile test site - theft of radioactive material - incorrect disposal of research or medical equipment - radiotherapy accidents If you can't be bothered to examine your sources for relevance, why should we?

by pqtyw 6mo ago

arijun 6mo ago

I may agree with your conclusion that old plants are safe enough (or at least take a deep dive study to see if their expected externality is worse than whatever would replace them). However: > the worst disaster to ever happen without any external factors The problem is external factors happen. You can’t just raise your hands up and say “wasn’t my fault,” when they do. A tsunami washing over a solar farm would be a lot safer than what happened at Fukushima.

BurningFrog 6mo ago
The Fukushima quake was a truly extraordinary outlier though! 4th biggest quake ever recorded in history hit at the exact spot where the tsunami could overpower the protective wall at the reactor. Yet nobody died from the radiation. Meanwhile the 20k people who died in the tsunami are forgotten. No one demands we stop building cities by the ocean.
- throwaway2037 6mo ago
  > Meanwhile the 20k people who died in the tsunami are forgotten. You are wrong. They are not forgotten.

goodpoint 6mo ago

I lost count at 50 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_nuclear_disasters_and_radioactive_incidents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_nuclear_disasters_and...

tremon 6mo ago
That list includes: - a nuclear missile test site - theft of radioactive material - incorrect disposal of research or medical equipment - radiotherapy accidents If you can't be bothered to examine your sources for relevance, why should we?