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This adds news (Chernin's involvement) and knowledgeable analysis in context. And, for an insurgent platform/viewpoint to succeed, it needs tireless promotion.

by gojomo 14y ago

This adds news (Chernin's involvement) and knowledgeable analysis in context. And, for an insurgent platform/viewpoint to succeed, it needs tireless promotion. (Graphomania, even.) Skip his blog posts if you don't like them, others find them valuable.

codewright 14y ago
>And, for an insurgent platform/viewpoint to succeed, it needs tireless promotion. Then I need to ramp up my userscript for client-side filtering Hacker News.
- aaronbrethorst 14y ago
  https://github.com/aaronbrethorst/NoBitcoin https://github.com/aaronbrethorst/NoBitcoin
  - codewright 14y ago
    Much appreciated but the "ramping up" refers to the need to add more content when stuff gets removed per page in this case.
  - pseut 14y ago
    I can not upvote this enough.
nemesisj 14y ago
Look, his post may be insightful and interesting, but the point is that if any other startup on here spent post after post publicly criticising their direct competitor, it would hopefully be viewed as a negative thing. Why is App.net any different? There are plenty of ways to promote your scrappy and noble insurgency without sticking it in the eye of your competitor. Again, I think what app.net is doing is interesting and great, just not these types of blog posts.
- Braasch 14y ago
  >Look, his post may be insightful and interesting >I think what app.net is doing is interesting and great, just not these types of blog posts. Nice contradiction. And perspective from someone who knows what he's talking about as a result of building a competitor is invaluable insight and quite interesting to me. I don't get why you think Dalton is doing this solely for promotional purposes, but hey, you're entitled to your opinion. Oh, and in response to your previous post: plenty of people are "carrying the water" and are calling Twitter out on their bullshit.
- EvanKelly 14y ago
  DuckDuckGo publicly blogs about what they feel are the shortcomings of Google. I've seen similar feedback in the comments of the DDG articles.
  - patrickaljord 14y ago
    Yep, that was me http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4744621 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4744621 I think marketing your product by criticizing your competitor is fine, but constantly blogging about how bad/evil your competitor is can be tiring and people just don't care anymore "oh, it's X criticizing Y again to promote his product, how novel!".
- davidkatz 14y ago
  Why should a company criticising competition be viewed as a negative thing? Content quality trumps everything else. When something smart is being said, why does it matter who said it?
  - drumdance 14y ago
    Not necessarily negative, but certainly suspect. He has financial a stake in the outcome of his criticism. Compare this to someone knocking Apple for something about iOS with the explicit hope that they fix it to his liking.
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by gojomo 14y ago

codewright 14y ago

>And, for an insurgent platform/viewpoint to succeed, it needs tireless promotion. Then I need to ramp up my userscript for client-side filtering Hacker News.

aaronbrethorst 14y ago
https://github.com/aaronbrethorst/NoBitcoin https://github.com/aaronbrethorst/NoBitcoin
- codewright 14y ago
  Much appreciated but the "ramping up" refers to the need to add more content when stuff gets removed per page in this case.
- pseut 14y ago
  I can not upvote this enough.

nemesisj 14y ago

Look, his post may be insightful and interesting, but the point is that if any other startup on here spent post after post publicly criticising their direct competitor, it would hopefully be viewed as a negative thing. Why is App.net any different? There are plenty of ways to promote your scrappy and noble insurgency without sticking it in the eye of your competitor. Again, I think what app.net is doing is interesting and great, just not these types of blog posts.

Braasch 14y ago
>Look, his post may be insightful and interesting >I think what app.net is doing is interesting and great, just not these types of blog posts. Nice contradiction. And perspective from someone who knows what he's talking about as a result of building a competitor is invaluable insight and quite interesting to me. I don't get why you think Dalton is doing this solely for promotional purposes, but hey, you're entitled to your opinion. Oh, and in response to your previous post: plenty of people are "carrying the water" and are calling Twitter out on their bullshit.
EvanKelly 14y ago
DuckDuckGo publicly blogs about what they feel are the shortcomings of Google. I've seen similar feedback in the comments of the DDG articles.
- patrickaljord 14y ago
  Yep, that was me http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4744621 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4744621 I think marketing your product by criticizing your competitor is fine, but constantly blogging about how bad/evil your competitor is can be tiring and people just don't care anymore "oh, it's X criticizing Y again to promote his product, how novel!".
davidkatz 14y ago
Why should a company criticising competition be viewed as a negative thing? Content quality trumps everything else. When something smart is being said, why does it matter who said it?
- drumdance 14y ago
  Not necessarily negative, but certainly suspect. He has financial a stake in the outcome of his criticism. Compare this to someone knocking Apple for something about iOS with the explicit hope that they fix it to his liking.
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