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The IBM Granite 4.1 family of models

88 points by wglb 5mo ago

ekianjo 5mo ago
The lmstudio link points to granite 4.0
wmf 5mo ago
Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47960507 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47960507
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jrgd 5mo ago
The few tests i ran i just got Granite4.1 tell me about YOLO repeatedly for no reasons; every questions and prompts were answered with a mention of a vision system unrelated with the task…
- SequoiaHope 5mo ago
  I shudder to think of what IBM’s government based clients are using YOLO for.
  - jrgd 5mo ago
    Or trying to… given the performance of this release. I bet though internal tools are more efficient.
  - jrgd 5mo ago
    That thought now reminds me of the ibm accounting machines and their punch cards… Not a great perspective.
RickHull 5mo ago
What is an enterprise workload?
- Havoc 5mo ago
  Aside from this just being standard corporate speak copy, there is an element of truth there - the granite models are likely to give you more plain toneless responses rather than a rainbow of emojiis. Which in corporate setting can be useful
  - skiing_crawling 5mo ago
    That actually sounds nice in theory. A model for getting work done and nothing else, which doesn't have to account or be trained for any type of user engagement. Like how chatgpt/claude are wasting their capacity on social niceties and glazing the user. I don't know if granite is one such but I'd bet that many of the other popular models can't be since they are consumer facing.
  - weird-eye-issue 5mo ago
    Existing models from OpenAI etc never return emojis when using the raw APIs unless you ask for it
- swiftcoder 5mo ago
  OCR'ing tables into spreadsheets, apparently
- hbbio 5mo ago
  "This approach presents a significant opportunity for optimization and strategic realignment to better meet our core objectives."
- reliablereason 5mo ago
  Pragmatically enterprise tends to mean less refined, designed by committee and expensive. In this case i would guess it is mostly a justification for taking a part of the LLM pie.
trilogic 5mo ago
Here the most relevant models: https://hugston.com/models/granite-41-8bq4-k-m https://hugston.com/models/granite-41-8bq4-k-m and: https://hugston.com/models/granite-41-30bq4-k-m https://hugston.com/models/granite-41-30bq4-k-m
immanuwell 5mo ago
cool portfolio flex from IBM, but until I see independent benchmarks that aren't cherry-picked, I'll believe it when I see it
DonHopkins 5mo ago
They should go all in on AI first and rebrand as AIBM, it has a nice ring to it. "IBM, UBM, we all BM for IBM." --David Gerrold, "When HARLIE Was One". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_HARLIE_Was_One https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_HARLIE_Was_One

88 points by wglb 5mo ago

ekianjo 5mo ago

The lmstudio link points to granite 4.0

wmf 5mo ago

Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47960507 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47960507

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jrgd 5mo ago

The few tests i ran i just got Granite4.1 tell me about YOLO repeatedly for no reasons; every questions and prompts were answered with a mention of a vision system unrelated with the task…

SequoiaHope 5mo ago
I shudder to think of what IBM’s government based clients are using YOLO for.
- jrgd 5mo ago
  Or trying to… given the performance of this release. I bet though internal tools are more efficient.
- jrgd 5mo ago
  That thought now reminds me of the ibm accounting machines and their punch cards… Not a great perspective.

RickHull 5mo ago

What is an enterprise workload?

Havoc 5mo ago
Aside from this just being standard corporate speak copy, there is an element of truth there - the granite models are likely to give you more plain toneless responses rather than a rainbow of emojiis. Which in corporate setting can be useful
- skiing_crawling 5mo ago
  That actually sounds nice in theory. A model for getting work done and nothing else, which doesn't have to account or be trained for any type of user engagement. Like how chatgpt/claude are wasting their capacity on social niceties and glazing the user. I don't know if granite is one such but I'd bet that many of the other popular models can't be since they are consumer facing.
- weird-eye-issue 5mo ago
  Existing models from OpenAI etc never return emojis when using the raw APIs unless you ask for it
swiftcoder 5mo ago
OCR'ing tables into spreadsheets, apparently
hbbio 5mo ago
"This approach presents a significant opportunity for optimization and strategic realignment to better meet our core objectives."
reliablereason 5mo ago
Pragmatically enterprise tends to mean less refined, designed by committee and expensive. In this case i would guess it is mostly a justification for taking a part of the LLM pie.

trilogic 5mo ago

Here the most relevant models: https://hugston.com/models/granite-41-8bq4-k-m https://hugston.com/models/granite-41-8bq4-k-m and: https://hugston.com/models/granite-41-30bq4-k-m https://hugston.com/models/granite-41-30bq4-k-m

immanuwell 5mo ago

cool portfolio flex from IBM, but until I see independent benchmarks that aren't cherry-picked, I'll believe it when I see it

DonHopkins 5mo ago

They should go all in on AI first and rebrand as AIBM, it has a nice ring to it. "IBM, UBM, we all BM for IBM." --David Gerrold, "When HARLIE Was One". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_HARLIE_Was_One https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_HARLIE_Was_One