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We have also been breathing fine coal, diesel, brake-pad and tire dust for almost 100 years with no riots from gen-pop, but clean nuclear and batteries will kil

We have also been breathing fine coal, diesel, brake-pad and tire dust for almost 100 years with no riots from gen-pop, but clean nuclear and batteries will kill us.

infecto 6mo ago
It’s a weird time. You would think folks would be excited about technology but we have this weird even in America where everything is scary. Facebook brainrot is no issue but F those EVs.
maxerickson 6mo ago
About 15 years ago there was some interest in putting in some wind towers in the township I lived in. People were talking about stray electricity killing their livestock. Never mind the several dozen towers already installed 3 miles away.
- joe_mamba 6mo ago
  >People were talking about stray electricity killing their livestock. That's why I think voting shouldn't be a universal right to everyone, but a privilege you gain after clearing certain bars, one of them being basic education and an IQ test. Giving every dumbass the same voting power as an academic, to grind national development to a halt and make life shit for everyone else just because they don't understand 5th grade physics, is a recipe for disaster and we're living proof of it. If you ever worked in public rations and interacted with the gen-pop off the street on a regular basis, you'd see my point eye-to-eye. The masses are too stupid to be entrusted with national decisions, and the only reason they are allowed to, is because they are easily manipulated into voting the way the elites want them to, because they're stupid. It's exactly why Plato opposed democracy arguing the same faults. >Plato argued that democracy gives power to the masses (the demos), who are often ignorant, emotional, and easily manipulated by skilled speakers (rhetoricians and demagogues). Indisputable fact. >Plato believed that ruling is a skill that requires deep knowledge, wisdom, and training in philosophy — not something that should be decided by majority vote or popularity. Indisputable fact. >He famously compared democracy to a ship where the sailors (citizens) vote on navigation, instead of letting the trained captain (philosopher) steer. The result, according to him, is chaos. Indisputable fact.
  - tardedmeme 6mo ago
    it's a nice idea but you know they used to have this, and the test was basically just a list of things white people were more likely to know
    - joe_mamba 6mo ago
      IDK, I'm not from a country that did stuff like that, so don't try to pin some original sin from the US history on me. I'm from a pretty homogenous country with no racial issues. Now are you saying only whites will be able to understand 5th grade physics and nobody else? Or that whites can't be stupid too? Personally I don't care about your skin color, or other factors, if you're THAT stupid, I don't want you deciding the future of our country, period, since you're putting everyone in danger. If you can't pass 5th grade physics, you're not fit to be voting on the country's nuclear energy policy, simple.
      - vrganj 6mo ago
        The concern isn't that only whites will be smart enough. The concern is that the current power structure will use this as a convenient way to bias the voter pool in its favor through strategic selection of questions.
      - infecto 6mo ago
        You could replace skin color with any attribute and it will probably happen. You can see it play out across the world time and time again, in any type of downturn or bad luck people on average find it easier to blame another group than themself. Take this a step forward and you get momentum to carve requirements that would exclude that group. Oh you want to participate in voting? You need to be able to list the Qur’anic commandments to be able to vote or whatever your flavor of restriction is.
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      - nancyminusone 6mo ago

We have also been breathing fine coal, diesel, brake-pad and tire dust for almost 100 years with no riots from gen-pop, but clean nuclear and batteries will kill us.

infecto 6mo ago

It’s a weird time. You would think folks would be excited about technology but we have this weird even in America where everything is scary. Facebook brainrot is no issue but F those EVs.

maxerickson 6mo ago

About 15 years ago there was some interest in putting in some wind towers in the township I lived in. People were talking about stray electricity killing their livestock. Never mind the several dozen towers already installed 3 miles away.

joe_mamba 6mo ago
>People were talking about stray electricity killing their livestock. That's why I think voting shouldn't be a universal right to everyone, but a privilege you gain after clearing certain bars, one of them being basic education and an IQ test. Giving every dumbass the same voting power as an academic, to grind national development to a halt and make life shit for everyone else just because they don't understand 5th grade physics, is a recipe for disaster and we're living proof of it. If you ever worked in public rations and interacted with the gen-pop off the street on a regular basis, you'd see my point eye-to-eye. The masses are too stupid to be entrusted with national decisions, and the only reason they are allowed to, is because they are easily manipulated into voting the way the elites want them to, because they're stupid. It's exactly why Plato opposed democracy arguing the same faults. >Plato argued that democracy gives power to the masses (the demos), who are often ignorant, emotional, and easily manipulated by skilled speakers (rhetoricians and demagogues). Indisputable fact. >Plato believed that ruling is a skill that requires deep knowledge, wisdom, and training in philosophy — not something that should be decided by majority vote or popularity. Indisputable fact. >He famously compared democracy to a ship where the sailors (citizens) vote on navigation, instead of letting the trained captain (philosopher) steer. The result, according to him, is chaos. Indisputable fact.
- tardedmeme 6mo ago
  it's a nice idea but you know they used to have this, and the test was basically just a list of things white people were more likely to know
  - joe_mamba 6mo ago
    IDK, I'm not from a country that did stuff like that, so don't try to pin some original sin from the US history on me. I'm from a pretty homogenous country with no racial issues. Now are you saying only whites will be able to understand 5th grade physics and nobody else? Or that whites can't be stupid too? Personally I don't care about your skin color, or other factors, if you're THAT stupid, I don't want you deciding the future of our country, period, since you're putting everyone in danger. If you can't pass 5th grade physics, you're not fit to be voting on the country's nuclear energy policy, simple.
    - vrganj 6mo ago
      The concern isn't that only whites will be smart enough. The concern is that the current power structure will use this as a convenient way to bias the voter pool in its favor through strategic selection of questions.
    - infecto 6mo ago
      You could replace skin color with any attribute and it will probably happen. You can see it play out across the world time and time again, in any type of downturn or bad luck people on average find it easier to blame another group than themself. Take this a step forward and you get momentum to carve requirements that would exclude that group. Oh you want to participate in voting? You need to be able to list the Qur’anic commandments to be able to vote or whatever your flavor of restriction is.
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    - nancyminusone 6mo ago