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How to disable Firefox's new emoji picker

Wowfunhappy 6mo ago
An Emoji picker should be an OS-level feature. If the OS doesn’t provide the feature, then that is the OS’s decision to make, and the browser should respect it. Why would I want text input in one app to have a feature that text input in other apps lacks?
- LatencyKills 6mo ago
  Allow me to rephrase: If the OS doesn’t provide X, the end user should have no alternative for X. I use both macOS and Pop!OS. The latter doesn't include an emoji picker by default, so I'm precluded from using a 3rd-party picker? There is no issue as long as a 3rd-party app doesn't override built-in functionality. If you don't want it, it is easy to disable.
  - fg137 6mo ago
    I mean, Firefox is 3rd party, so.
    - deleted 6mo ago
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  - Wowfunhappy 6mo ago
    Especially on a Linux distro, you could install a 3rd-party package that adds an emoji picker system-wide, as opposed to in one app. If every app brings its own emoji picker, then you end up with a different interface everywhere.
    - LatencyKills 6mo ago
      I understand that, but as someone who was an engineer at both Microsoft and Apple, I see absolutely no problem with 3rd-parties adding useful features. As I said, as long as 3rd parties aren't overriding the built-in functionality by default (e.g., using the same keyboard shortcuts), there's no problem. 99% of FF users will probably never even know it has its own picker.
      - Wowfunhappy 6mo ago
        As a user of these OS's, I wish you would have a problem with this. I want text input to work the same way across every app. It is of course great for third parties to add features, they should just work system wide. If text entry looks different in every app, that sucks.
        LatencyKills 6mo ago
        Neither MS nor Apple has the best track record of building full-featured utility tools (which is why there are thousands of incredibly useful 3rd-party utility applications). I wish end-users would understand that giving them a choice is more important than forcing them to use only OS-provided functionality. You aren't required to use anything that you don't like. The fact that you are complaining about a non-problem is odd. Lastly, incremental improvements generally come from outside the OS. If FF ends up adding something novel/interesting to their emoji picker, the major OS's will probably adopt it at some point. That would never happen in your world, where only the biggest companies get to innovate.
    - bob001 6mo ago
      > then you end up with a different interface everywhere. This whole post is about someone being upset that Firefox finally did support the system level interface and shortcut. And you're upset about that while asking for consistent interfaces. Some people can just never be happy I guess.
      - embedding-shape 6mo ago
        Just to put the record straight, I'm (author of the post) not upset, mad or sad about anything, it is what it is, I'm sure some like it, others don't. I'm glad I have the option to turn it off, like most stuff I don't like in Firefox, it tends to be easy to get rid of it. I shared it as a blog post as I've already had two people asking me privately if I know how to get rid of it, as I'm the reason they use 1Password in the first place, not because "I got so upset I couldn't contain it" or something like that. Surely there are more wondering it then. I also don't think parent seem upset either, but I won't attempt to speak for them. But arguing for/against a position doesn't mean they aren't happy or that they are upset, conflicting views and perspectives is normal, even within the same person sometimes :)
- shevy-java 6mo ago
  Hmmm. Let me preface here that I think Mozilla invests its energy in a strange way. On the other hand, I am not sure I can agree with "OS-level feature". An emoji is essentially something simple, right? I am thinking of an "Unicode symbol" here. So to me, I would like to use any emoji or unicode as-is, anywhere, when it comes to user input - copy/paste, perhaps even converting it to a real image. You mentioned that "browsers should respect if emojis are forbidden by the OS", in essence, and I am not sure I agree with that. If an OS does not allow me to use an emoji, then I would not want to use that OS (well, I use Linux, so that does not matter anyway; and I avoid GNOME since it is too opinionated - I want to decide what I can do, I don't want remote developers decide what to do; this is also why I stopped using KDE, after the donation-daemon was added by Nate not so long ago). > Why would I want text input in one app to have a feature that text input in other apps lacks? That is a valid question but would I want to give up on emojis because "the OS does not support it"? I'd much rather use emojis, even IF an OS does not support it. I really don't want to be limited like that by an OS. Perhaps this simply refers to different assumptions. I think we can agree that Mozilla invests their resources in a strange way though.
- chuckadams 6mo ago
  It is an OS-level feature, or at least desktop environment level. Far as I know, it's always been Ctrl-. or Ctrl-; for any GTK app, but Firefox had apparently bound Ctrl-. to something else. So basically, this "added" feature is Firefox getting out of the way of the built-in picker that was already there. On macOS, it still opens the multi-account container panel, and the emoji picker is still brought up by tapping Fn.
  - embedding-shape 6mo ago
    > but Firefox had apparently bound Ctrl-. to something else. I think up until version 150 it was nothing, as 1Password had `ctrl + .` as the default shortcut for opening up their autocomplete thing, and feels like they wouldn't have chosen that shortcut years ago if Firefox was already using it for something, but maybe I misremember.
  - Wowfunhappy 6mo ago
    Okay, in that case, I completely misunderstood the issue. If the change is that Firefox now allows the system-level picker to get through instead of blocking the keyboard shortcut, that’s a win. I thought Firefox was adding its own Emoji-picker UI.
    - embedding-shape 6mo ago
      > If the change is that Firefox now allows the system-level picker to get through instead of blocking the keyboard shortcut, that’s a win. You're almost there :) Firefox now opens the system-level picker for that shortcut, regardless of what global keyboard shortcut you might have configured system-level. So system-level, I have nothing done on "CTRL + .", in Firefox, I have 1Password browser extension triggered by "CTRL + ." so when Firefox version 150 was launched, instead of seeing 1Password when I did the shortcut, it instead showed my system-level emoji picker (which I have no shortcut for), triggered by Firefox.
      - Wowfunhappy 6mo ago
        Okay, now I’m back to being annoyed. :) Why can’t Firefox respect system-level custom keyboard shortcuts? This has been a bug on Mac for like 15 years and they don’t seem to care about it at all, which IMO is ridiculous, it’s core system functionality.
- PurpleRamen 6mo ago
  > An Emoji picker should be an OS-level feature. This is an "OS"-feature, where OS means the GUI-Framework that Firefox is using to integrate with the DE. > If the OS doesn’t provide the feature, then that is the OS’s decision to make, and the browser should respect it. That's a very strange claim. Nearly everything in any app is something the OS is not providing; that's why apps exist in the first place, to enhance the environment. > Why would I want text input in one app to have a feature that text input in other apps lacks? Why should they cripple themselves willingly; just to align with others? Especially as this is a web browser, which has become the main way of interaction with a big part of the world.
- hulitu 6mo ago
  > An Emoji picker should be an OS-level feature. Why ? Every program shall be free to implement its own Emoji picker. For example systemd or bash or even iptables.
krige 6mo ago
Odd, I am on firefox 150, and Ctrl + . doesn't seem to do anything.
- embedding-shape 6mo ago
  What OS? Might just be while focused in text inputs as well, in case you've been trying it without an input.
- Zardoz84 6mo ago
  On my case, It opnes the KDE emoji picker ... But this emoji picker walys show with that key combination in any program. I think that Firefoxs nevers gets the Ctrl+. key shortcut
- deleted 6mo ago
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shevy-java 6mo ago
> Annoyingly enough, Mozilla decided to add a emoji picker to Firefox 150, which fair enough, probably some people like Mozilla is really focusing on how to break the Google monopoly. With the POWER of the Emoji, Mozilla will succeed here. I ... suppose?
- dwedge 6mo ago
  They break the Google monopoly by being funded by Google so that Google can say there is an alternative
  - swed420 6mo ago
    Yep. Blatant controlled opposition. Ladybird browser can't come soon enough.
Flimm 6mo ago
> On GNOME we already have a global shortcut for some emoji picker, I think it's Super + , or something Actually, on most distros, the default keyboard shortcut for the emoji picker on GNOME/GTK is ctrl-. (same as the Firefox shortcut). This only works on apps that support it. Older Firefox versions did not support GNOME's emoji picker at all, but Firefox 150 supports GNOME's emoji picker using the expected keyboard shortcut.
- embedding-shape 6mo ago
  > the default keyboard shortcut for the emoji picker on GNOME/GTK is ctrl-. (same as the Firefox shortcut). Hmm, I wonder how new that is? Could be possible that my GNOME installation is old enough to predate that, and they didn't overwrite the config like Firefox did? Because I've been using Firefox + 1Password + GNOME for years, and for as long as I can remember, `ctrl + .` has opened 1Password dialogue in Firefox, and I'm not sure I've ever seen an Emoji picker in GNOME, although I know it exists somewhere.
  - amanzi 6mo ago
    Check this article: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/manage-extension-shortcuts-firefox https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/manage-extension-shortc... For me, "Ctrl + ." was being used by two different extensions: Raindrop and Mult-account containers. I deleted both of these shortcuts since neither were useful for me. I'd much rather have the Firefox emoji picker respond to "Ctrl + ." in the same way as other Gnome apps.
- deleted 6mo ago
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j1elo 6mo ago
I'm on Firefox 150.0.1 on Windows, and Ctrl+. consistently opens up the Firefox Multi-Account Containers panel, regardless of hitting that shortcut while focusing this same text box I'm writing on right now, or not. So this sounds like not working as expected I guess.
- embedding-shape 6mo ago
  Might depend on when you first launched Firefox, so it tries to "grandfather" some settings across the versions? That `ctrl + .` now opens the emoji picker on Linux seems to very much be intended, judging by this release post: https://www.firefox.com/en-US/firefox/150.0/releasenotes/ https://www.firefox.com/en-US/firefox/150.0/releasenotes/ > Added support for the GTK emoji picker on Linux, allowing users to insert emoji using the system shortcut (typically Ctrl+.).
  - freehorse 6mo ago
    >> Windows > Linux [...] system shortcut So it makes sense that they do not get the emoji picker, as they are in windows. I use macos and I also get the multiacccount container. On macos the emoji system-wide shortcut is ctrl+cmd+space.
    - embedding-shape 6mo ago
      Oh, totally yes, missed that they wrote that, thanks! This change from Firefox only applies to Linux, so Windows and macOS users shouldn't notice any difference compared to before in regards to `ctrl + .` as far as I understand.
      - NooneAtAll3 6mo ago
        ...whose idea it was to have shortcuts differ by OS??
        embedding-shape 6mo ago
gib444 6mo ago
Is Firefox turning into Edge? The list of things I don't want in a browser is growing. Perhaps they need to consider a "basic" version
this_user 6mo ago
The Firefox UI is getting worse and worse with every version, because they are constantly adding more useless features. Any time you accidentally hit the wrong button, it launches something, because everything is a shortcut now. The latest being their split tabs, which I also had to disable. Maybe they should stop trying to turn their browser into an OS.
- mghackerlady 6mo ago
  just use seamonkey oor palemoon
ralgozino 6mo ago
> I don't really write any emojis in anything I use a browser for anyways Proceeds to use an emoji as favicon :D
- embedding-shape 6mo ago
  Heh fair :) For the lack of a better icon to use, I did copy paste a emoji to be used as the favicon, I hope my readers can eventually forgive me for this transgression.
AdmiralAsshat 6mo ago
Strange...clicking Ctrl+. in my Firefox (which I just updated to 150.0.1) did not bring up the Emoji Picker, but instead brought up Firefox Multi-Account Containers.
- embedding-shape 6mo ago
  Sounds like you might be on macOS? (or Windows, given you write Ctrl rather than Cmd?) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47961337 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47961337 In hindsight, I probably should have made it clear that this change is for Firefox 150 on Linux specifically.
pwdisswordfishq 6mo ago
My input method's emoji picker is bound to Super+. and works fine in Firefox... ESR 140.10. WTF did they even need to change?
edent 6mo ago
I despair at some of the comments on posts like this. "Mozilla needs to attract new users!!" Mozilla proceeds to add new features which new users might like "No! Not like that" Like, what do you actually want? A browser with a UI that hasn't changed since Stallman was in nappies? Things have to change in order to grow. Not everything is going to be right for you and that's OK.
- aa_is_op 6mo ago
  They can start by supporting more standards. It's getting harder and harder to view any modern site on this engine and the page load times are insane when compared to a Chromium stepchild like Vivaldi
  - embedding-shape 6mo ago
    > It's getting harder and harder to view any modern site on this engine Is it? What website can you not view in Firefox today? I almost exclusively use Firefox on my computer (Safari on mobile), and can't remember the last time I encountered a website that wasn't viewable in Firefox. Even my bank, which tends to be whiny about what browser you use, works 100% in Firefox too, even with all the warnings.
  - edent 6mo ago
    I'm sorry, but that's bollocks. I browse exclusively in FF and I can't remember a single page in the last couple of years that refuses to work on it (unless it's a weird web experiment).
  - quantummagic 6mo ago
    > ... harder to view any modern site ... Seriously? Have a few concrete examples to back that up?
- embedding-shape 6mo ago
  > Not everything is going to be right for you and that's OK. Yes, this is exactly right, some things won't be for everyone. The best part of Firefox (for me, besides being able to have vertical tree-style tabs) is that more times than not, you can disable and/or hide the change you don't like, as demonstrated by the blog post. Sure, I might not agree with every change they make to default choices but they at least let us power users configure the browser so it ends up just like how we want it to be, and for that I'm very grateful, as it tends to be uncommon in this day and age.
wodenokoto 6mo ago
While there might be a use case for emoji picker in the browser, I don’t see how hiding one behind such an obscure shortcut brings an emoji picker to anyone who doesn’t already know how to use the one built in to their os.
hales 6mo ago
What I really want is an emoji explainer feature to help me read other people's emoji. I currently copy+paste a lot of them into a search engine to find out what they're supposed to be.
- bhandziuk 6mo ago
  For me there are 4 emojis: :), :(, :/, and :D. Anything that uses fancier characters is needlessly complicated and looks like clutter to me. For me this means that whenever I use one of those in Google Chat I need to type Esc before i can send my message lest what I typed be replaced by a goofy yellow face.
- ButlerianJihad 6mo ago
  https://emojipedia.org/ https://emojipedia.org/
oneeyedpigeon 6mo ago
Does any OS get keyboard shortcuts even slightly right? I only really have experience with macOS right now, but it's terrible—just trying to find out which shortcuts are in use is non-trivial. Is there some kind of Linux standard for this? Something that stores shortcuts in a single plain text file, so they're all visible and easily manageable?
amanzi 6mo ago
Sounds like the real problem was that 1Password had hijacked the same keyboard shortcut that other Gnome apps use for the Emoji picker. For me, "Ctrl + ." was being used by two different extensions: Raindrop and Multi-account containers. I deleted these shortcuts since I would *rather* have the Firefox emoji picker. :-)
emmalia 6mo ago
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An Emoji picker should be an OS-level feature. If the OS doesn’t provide the feature, then that is the OS’s decision to make, and the browser should respect it. Why would I want text input in one app to have a feature that text input in other apps lacks?

LatencyKills 6mo ago
Allow me to rephrase: If the OS doesn’t provide X, the end user should have no alternative for X. I use both macOS and Pop!OS. The latter doesn't include an emoji picker by default, so I'm precluded from using a 3rd-party picker? There is no issue as long as a 3rd-party app doesn't override built-in functionality. If you don't want it, it is easy to disable.
- fg137 6mo ago
  I mean, Firefox is 3rd party, so.
  - deleted 6mo ago
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- Wowfunhappy 6mo ago
  Especially on a Linux distro, you could install a 3rd-party package that adds an emoji picker system-wide, as opposed to in one app. If every app brings its own emoji picker, then you end up with a different interface everywhere.
  - LatencyKills 6mo ago
    I understand that, but as someone who was an engineer at both Microsoft and Apple, I see absolutely no problem with 3rd-parties adding useful features. As I said, as long as 3rd parties aren't overriding the built-in functionality by default (e.g., using the same keyboard shortcuts), there's no problem. 99% of FF users will probably never even know it has its own picker.
    - Wowfunhappy 6mo ago
      As a user of these OS's, I wish you would have a problem with this. I want text input to work the same way across every app. It is of course great for third parties to add features, they should just work system wide. If text entry looks different in every app, that sucks.
      - LatencyKills 6mo ago
        Neither MS nor Apple has the best track record of building full-featured utility tools (which is why there are thousands of incredibly useful 3rd-party utility applications). I wish end-users would understand that giving them a choice is more important than forcing them to use only OS-provided functionality. You aren't required to use anything that you don't like. The fact that you are complaining about a non-problem is odd. Lastly, incremental improvements generally come from outside the OS. If FF ends up adding something novel/interesting to their emoji picker, the major OS's will probably adopt it at some point. That would never happen in your world, where only the biggest companies get to innovate.
  - bob001 6mo ago
    > then you end up with a different interface everywhere. This whole post is about someone being upset that Firefox finally did support the system level interface and shortcut. And you're upset about that while asking for consistent interfaces. Some people can just never be happy I guess.
    - embedding-shape 6mo ago
      Just to put the record straight, I'm (author of the post) not upset, mad or sad about anything, it is what it is, I'm sure some like it, others don't. I'm glad I have the option to turn it off, like most stuff I don't like in Firefox, it tends to be easy to get rid of it. I shared it as a blog post as I've already had two people asking me privately if I know how to get rid of it, as I'm the reason they use 1Password in the first place, not because "I got so upset I couldn't contain it" or something like that. Surely there are more wondering it then. I also don't think parent seem upset either, but I won't attempt to speak for them. But arguing for/against a position doesn't mean they aren't happy or that they are upset, conflicting views and perspectives is normal, even within the same person sometimes :)
shevy-java 6mo ago
Hmmm. Let me preface here that I think Mozilla invests its energy in a strange way. On the other hand, I am not sure I can agree with "OS-level feature". An emoji is essentially something simple, right? I am thinking of an "Unicode symbol" here. So to me, I would like to use any emoji or unicode as-is, anywhere, when it comes to user input - copy/paste, perhaps even converting it to a real image. You mentioned that "browsers should respect if emojis are forbidden by the OS", in essence, and I am not sure I agree with that. If an OS does not allow me to use an emoji, then I would not want to use that OS (well, I use Linux, so that does not matter anyway; and I avoid GNOME since it is too opinionated - I want to decide what I can do, I don't want remote developers decide what to do; this is also why I stopped using KDE, after the donation-daemon was added by Nate not so long ago). > Why would I want text input in one app to have a feature that text input in other apps lacks? That is a valid question but would I want to give up on emojis because "the OS does not support it"? I'd much rather use emojis, even IF an OS does not support it. I really don't want to be limited like that by an OS. Perhaps this simply refers to different assumptions. I think we can agree that Mozilla invests their resources in a strange way though.
chuckadams 6mo ago
It is an OS-level feature, or at least desktop environment level. Far as I know, it's always been Ctrl-. or Ctrl-; for any GTK app, but Firefox had apparently bound Ctrl-. to something else. So basically, this "added" feature is Firefox getting out of the way of the built-in picker that was already there. On macOS, it still opens the multi-account container panel, and the emoji picker is still brought up by tapping Fn.
- embedding-shape 6mo ago
  > but Firefox had apparently bound Ctrl-. to something else. I think up until version 150 it was nothing, as 1Password had `ctrl + .` as the default shortcut for opening up their autocomplete thing, and feels like they wouldn't have chosen that shortcut years ago if Firefox was already using it for something, but maybe I misremember.
- Wowfunhappy 6mo ago
  Okay, in that case, I completely misunderstood the issue. If the change is that Firefox now allows the system-level picker to get through instead of blocking the keyboard shortcut, that’s a win. I thought Firefox was adding its own Emoji-picker UI.
  - embedding-shape 6mo ago
    > If the change is that Firefox now allows the system-level picker to get through instead of blocking the keyboard shortcut, that’s a win. You're almost there :) Firefox now opens the system-level picker for that shortcut, regardless of what global keyboard shortcut you might have configured system-level. So system-level, I have nothing done on "CTRL + .", in Firefox, I have 1Password browser extension triggered by "CTRL + ." so when Firefox version 150 was launched, instead of seeing 1Password when I did the shortcut, it instead showed my system-level emoji picker (which I have no shortcut for), triggered by Firefox.
    - Wowfunhappy 6mo ago
      Okay, now I’m back to being annoyed. :) Why can’t Firefox respect system-level custom keyboard shortcuts? This has been a bug on Mac for like 15 years and they don’t seem to care about it at all, which IMO is ridiculous, it’s core system functionality.
PurpleRamen 6mo ago
> An Emoji picker should be an OS-level feature. This is an "OS"-feature, where OS means the GUI-Framework that Firefox is using to integrate with the DE. > If the OS doesn’t provide the feature, then that is the OS’s decision to make, and the browser should respect it. That's a very strange claim. Nearly everything in any app is something the OS is not providing; that's why apps exist in the first place, to enhance the environment. > Why would I want text input in one app to have a feature that text input in other apps lacks? Why should they cripple themselves willingly; just to align with others? Especially as this is a web browser, which has become the main way of interaction with a big part of the world.
hulitu 6mo ago
> An Emoji picker should be an OS-level feature. Why ? Every program shall be free to implement its own Emoji picker. For example systemd or bash or even iptables.

krige 6mo ago

Odd, I am on firefox 150, and Ctrl + . doesn't seem to do anything.

embedding-shape 6mo ago
What OS? Might just be while focused in text inputs as well, in case you've been trying it without an input.
Zardoz84 6mo ago
On my case, It opnes the KDE emoji picker ... But this emoji picker walys show with that key combination in any program. I think that Firefoxs nevers gets the Ctrl+. key shortcut
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shevy-java 6mo ago

> Annoyingly enough, Mozilla decided to add a emoji picker to Firefox 150, which fair enough, probably some people like Mozilla is really focusing on how to break the Google monopoly. With the POWER of the Emoji, Mozilla will succeed here. I ... suppose?

dwedge 6mo ago
They break the Google monopoly by being funded by Google so that Google can say there is an alternative
- swed420 6mo ago
  Yep. Blatant controlled opposition. Ladybird browser can't come soon enough.

Flimm 6mo ago

> On GNOME we already have a global shortcut for some emoji picker, I think it's Super + , or something Actually, on most distros, the default keyboard shortcut for the emoji picker on GNOME/GTK is ctrl-. (same as the Firefox shortcut). This only works on apps that support it. Older Firefox versions did not support GNOME's emoji picker at all, but Firefox 150 supports GNOME's emoji picker using the expected keyboard shortcut.

embedding-shape 6mo ago
> the default keyboard shortcut for the emoji picker on GNOME/GTK is ctrl-. (same as the Firefox shortcut). Hmm, I wonder how new that is? Could be possible that my GNOME installation is old enough to predate that, and they didn't overwrite the config like Firefox did? Because I've been using Firefox + 1Password + GNOME for years, and for as long as I can remember, `ctrl + .` has opened 1Password dialogue in Firefox, and I'm not sure I've ever seen an Emoji picker in GNOME, although I know it exists somewhere.
- amanzi 6mo ago
  Check this article: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/manage-extension-shortcuts-firefox https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/manage-extension-shortc... For me, "Ctrl + ." was being used by two different extensions: Raindrop and Mult-account containers. I deleted both of these shortcuts since neither were useful for me. I'd much rather have the Firefox emoji picker respond to "Ctrl + ." in the same way as other Gnome apps.
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j1elo 6mo ago

I'm on Firefox 150.0.1 on Windows, and Ctrl+. consistently opens up the Firefox Multi-Account Containers panel, regardless of hitting that shortcut while focusing this same text box I'm writing on right now, or not. So this sounds like not working as expected I guess.

embedding-shape 6mo ago
Might depend on when you first launched Firefox, so it tries to "grandfather" some settings across the versions? That `ctrl + .` now opens the emoji picker on Linux seems to very much be intended, judging by this release post: https://www.firefox.com/en-US/firefox/150.0/releasenotes/ https://www.firefox.com/en-US/firefox/150.0/releasenotes/ > Added support for the GTK emoji picker on Linux, allowing users to insert emoji using the system shortcut (typically Ctrl+.).
- freehorse 6mo ago
  >> Windows > Linux [...] system shortcut So it makes sense that they do not get the emoji picker, as they are in windows. I use macos and I also get the multiacccount container. On macos the emoji system-wide shortcut is ctrl+cmd+space.
  - embedding-shape 6mo ago
    Oh, totally yes, missed that they wrote that, thanks! This change from Firefox only applies to Linux, so Windows and macOS users shouldn't notice any difference compared to before in regards to `ctrl + .` as far as I understand.
    - NooneAtAll3 6mo ago
      ...whose idea it was to have shortcuts differ by OS??
      - embedding-shape 6mo ago

gib444 6mo ago

Is Firefox turning into Edge? The list of things I don't want in a browser is growing. Perhaps they need to consider a "basic" version

this_user 6mo ago

The Firefox UI is getting worse and worse with every version, because they are constantly adding more useless features. Any time you accidentally hit the wrong button, it launches something, because everything is a shortcut now. The latest being their split tabs, which I also had to disable. Maybe they should stop trying to turn their browser into an OS.

mghackerlady 6mo ago
just use seamonkey oor palemoon

ralgozino 6mo ago

> I don't really write any emojis in anything I use a browser for anyways Proceeds to use an emoji as favicon :D

embedding-shape 6mo ago
Heh fair :) For the lack of a better icon to use, I did copy paste a emoji to be used as the favicon, I hope my readers can eventually forgive me for this transgression.

AdmiralAsshat 6mo ago

Strange...clicking Ctrl+. in my Firefox (which I just updated to 150.0.1) did not bring up the Emoji Picker, but instead brought up Firefox Multi-Account Containers.

embedding-shape 6mo ago
Sounds like you might be on macOS? (or Windows, given you write Ctrl rather than Cmd?) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47961337 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47961337 In hindsight, I probably should have made it clear that this change is for Firefox 150 on Linux specifically.

pwdisswordfishq 6mo ago

My input method's emoji picker is bound to Super+. and works fine in Firefox... ESR 140.10. WTF did they even need to change?

edent 6mo ago

I despair at some of the comments on posts like this. "Mozilla needs to attract new users!!" Mozilla proceeds to add new features which new users might like "No! Not like that" Like, what do you actually want? A browser with a UI that hasn't changed since Stallman was in nappies? Things have to change in order to grow. Not everything is going to be right for you and that's OK.

aa_is_op 6mo ago
They can start by supporting more standards. It's getting harder and harder to view any modern site on this engine and the page load times are insane when compared to a Chromium stepchild like Vivaldi
- embedding-shape 6mo ago
  > It's getting harder and harder to view any modern site on this engine Is it? What website can you not view in Firefox today? I almost exclusively use Firefox on my computer (Safari on mobile), and can't remember the last time I encountered a website that wasn't viewable in Firefox. Even my bank, which tends to be whiny about what browser you use, works 100% in Firefox too, even with all the warnings.
- edent 6mo ago
  I'm sorry, but that's bollocks. I browse exclusively in FF and I can't remember a single page in the last couple of years that refuses to work on it (unless it's a weird web experiment).
- quantummagic 6mo ago
  > ... harder to view any modern site ... Seriously? Have a few concrete examples to back that up?
embedding-shape 6mo ago
> Not everything is going to be right for you and that's OK. Yes, this is exactly right, some things won't be for everyone. The best part of Firefox (for me, besides being able to have vertical tree-style tabs) is that more times than not, you can disable and/or hide the change you don't like, as demonstrated by the blog post. Sure, I might not agree with every change they make to default choices but they at least let us power users configure the browser so it ends up just like how we want it to be, and for that I'm very grateful, as it tends to be uncommon in this day and age.

wodenokoto 6mo ago

While there might be a use case for emoji picker in the browser, I don’t see how hiding one behind such an obscure shortcut brings an emoji picker to anyone who doesn’t already know how to use the one built in to their os.

hales 6mo ago

What I really want is an emoji explainer feature to help me read other people's emoji. I currently copy+paste a lot of them into a search engine to find out what they're supposed to be.

bhandziuk 6mo ago
For me there are 4 emojis: :), :(, :/, and :D. Anything that uses fancier characters is needlessly complicated and looks like clutter to me. For me this means that whenever I use one of those in Google Chat I need to type Esc before i can send my message lest what I typed be replaced by a goofy yellow face.
ButlerianJihad 6mo ago
https://emojipedia.org/ https://emojipedia.org/

oneeyedpigeon 6mo ago

Does any OS get keyboard shortcuts even slightly right? I only really have experience with macOS right now, but it's terrible—just trying to find out which shortcuts are in use is non-trivial. Is there some kind of Linux standard for this? Something that stores shortcuts in a single plain text file, so they're all visible and easily manageable?

amanzi 6mo ago

Sounds like the real problem was that 1Password had hijacked the same keyboard shortcut that other Gnome apps use for the Emoji picker. For me, "Ctrl + ." was being used by two different extensions: Raindrop and Multi-account containers. I deleted these shortcuts since I would *rather* have the Firefox emoji picker. :-)

emmalia 6mo ago

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