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I still can’t believe that people take Caveman seriously. It’s a funny joke, but saving a couple hundred tokens in the final output is going to be negligible,

I still can’t believe that people take Caveman seriously. It’s a funny joke, but saving a couple hundred tokens in the final output is going to be negligible, especially when coding where it’s common to go through hundreds of thousands of tokens in a session. You also have to consider the additional tokens consumed by the skill itself (acknowledging that output tokens are billed at a different rate). I got a kick out of it when it was released, but now that I’m seeing it repeated as a useful operation it’s apparent how much cargo culting is going on in this space.

antonvs 6mo ago
> I still can’t believe that people take Caveman seriously. I treat it as a criterion for people who shouldn’t be taken seriously. We have a few at our company. None of them are actually software developers, thankfully.
nomel 6mo ago
I like it when people make conclusions with data, rather than emotion. It's good someone benchmarked it.
ptsneves 6mo ago
People explore what tickles them. Others try to rationalise what they like, even when the reason is flimsy. It’s ok :) It really releases the stress slightly to call bugs, buggas and generally role play a humorous setting than a purely tech me. I think I will make it speak out loud just to have a laugh at cavemen speak about default arguments in a method. > I didn’t find bugga but others from tribe will scratch head. Leave comment. > You clever. Fix it. I predict caveman speak will be a fad, and people will jokingly speak like that. It also compresses human language.
- Esophagus4 6mo ago
  Yeah there are similar “joke” tools / languages that found their friendly audience for a time. I like when programmers do creative, goofy stuff rather than spending all their time cranking out sterile soulless SaaS. It’s what separates us from the machines. For now :) https://github.com/ajalt/fuckitpy https://github.com/ajalt/fuckitpy

antonvs 6mo ago

> I still can’t believe that people take Caveman seriously. I treat it as a criterion for people who shouldn’t be taken seriously. We have a few at our company. None of them are actually software developers, thankfully.

nomel 6mo ago

I like it when people make conclusions with data, rather than emotion. It's good someone benchmarked it.

ptsneves 6mo ago

People explore what tickles them. Others try to rationalise what they like, even when the reason is flimsy. It’s ok :) It really releases the stress slightly to call bugs, buggas and generally role play a humorous setting than a purely tech me. I think I will make it speak out loud just to have a laugh at cavemen speak about default arguments in a method. > I didn’t find bugga but others from tribe will scratch head. Leave comment. > You clever. Fix it. I predict caveman speak will be a fad, and people will jokingly speak like that. It also compresses human language.

Esophagus4 6mo ago
Yeah there are similar “joke” tools / languages that found their friendly audience for a time. I like when programmers do creative, goofy stuff rather than spending all their time cranking out sterile soulless SaaS. It’s what separates us from the machines. For now :) https://github.com/ajalt/fuckitpy https://github.com/ajalt/fuckitpy