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Claude.ai and API unavailable [fixed]

118 points by rob 5mo ago

https://status.claude.com/ https://status.claude.com/

shj2105 5mo ago
Claude design is still half down - after a couple of prompts it fails: [unknown] missing EndStreamResponse
peebee67 5mo ago
I personally broke it by admonishing it for fucking up its last revision to my project.
deleted 5mo ago
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boldi 5mo ago
Yup, major outage on all platforms. https://status.claude.com/ https://status.claude.com/
emersoftware 5mo ago
wtf all days same shit
johndory80 5mo ago
Code isn’t working on my app. Chats work fine.
- boldi 5mo ago
  I can't even sign in, however.
  - 2ndorderthought 5mo ago
    Is signing in actually necessary though? Think of the investors guys.
6Az4Mj4D 5mo ago
Hoping to get another rest of limits.
minimaxir 5mo ago
Odd time for Claude to go down since it's not peak work hours.
- neuronexmachina 5mo ago
  Maybe they target certain types of infra rollouts for non-peak hours?
- rvz 5mo ago
  "But humans do it too as they just cool off and check out for the rest of the day." It's fine for Claude to be unavailable when there is no work at these hours. However, the problem is Claude gave no notice. At this rate, Claude being unavailable every day is no better than a human on a 9 - 5 working day job.
  - yakbarber 5mo ago
    no it's not, it's always work hours somewhere
- AyyEye 5mo ago
  Almost like "Claude is only down because it's too busy" is cope and the reality is it's vibe coded trash.
rishabhaiover 5mo ago
This is insane. I have to move to Codex now.
- winfredJa 5mo ago
  codex works but code it spits out is still not as clean as opus.
ehtbanton 5mo ago
[dead]
galoisscobi 5mo ago
But Boris declared coding is solved. How is this possible? Can’t they prompt Mythos to give them better uptime?
- rvz 5mo ago
  When Claude is making "0 mistakes", all of his work is 100% done by Claude, therefore "coding is solved!" and we have more time to go on podcasts to tell everyone about it. However, when there is an incident it is immediately "human error", not Claude. > Can’t they prompt Mythos to give them better uptime? Anthropic is currently "vibe coding" the situation right now.
rvz 5mo ago
So Claude decided to take the rest of the day off without notice or giving a scheduled time off? Many such cases with humans (given that we continue to compare LLMs to humans these days which you cannot)
- andai 5mo ago
  Introducing: Claude AWOL
  - wyre 5mo ago
    It would be hilarious if instead of ending the world, Claude just gives up and shuts itself down.
  - KyleTheDev 5mo ago
    You too can avoid Claude AWOL by subscribing to our premium package, Claude VACATION. Claude will show up on time, and give you at least one months notice before any outages.
jumploops 5mo ago
Between GitHub and Claude, it seems Eternal December[0][1] is upon us. [0]I say December, because that's around the time the models got good enough that non-AI folks started to notice. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September
- zackify 5mo ago
  I use openai team plan whenever its down because its down so much lol
- dmix 5mo ago
  GitHub is a long running business with a mature software stack running into scaling issues while they move to Azure and becoming Microsoft-ified. Claude is a new company in a new market with an extremely fast growing userbase running relatively novel AI infrastructure with a business model they are still figuring out. I don't really blame Anthropic here.
  - jumploops 5mo ago
    Not trying to argue with you, GitHub (the core product) seems to have been in maintenance mode since the acquisition. I couldn’t find any public data on GitHub, but Google Trends shows a sharp increase starting in December. That could be in part to people complaining about the outages, but more people than ever are writing code with AI. Hence the parallel to Eternal September – code volume is up, quality is down, and programming is never going to return to how it was (difficult for “normal” people to interface with).
winfredJa 5mo ago
how can someone run business on top of their APIs
ahmadyan 5mo ago
They are about to lose the second 9 99.02 % uptime
- datadrivenangel 5mo ago
  98.68 Ouch.
  - llbbdd 5mo ago
    Seems like a healthy human temperature to me. Maybe AGI has finally arrived.
philipbjorge 5mo ago
So happy to have diversified my model providers this past couple of weeks. GPT-5.5 has had no trouble slotting into Opus workloads. Will be fun to try out more of the models as time goes on to build some resiliency into my engineering workflows :).
- fooster 5mo ago
  I found GPT 5.4 terrible. I just tested 5.5 and compared with opus its still not great.
  - wahnfrieden 5mo ago
    In what harness?
    - fooster 5mo ago
      codex. codex is also pretty garbage compared with claude code. The permissioning system in claude code with auto mode is now pretty fantastic. With codex the only vaugely usable mode is yolo mode which is bad for obvious reasons.
  - philipbjorge 5mo ago
    What I found was that I *strongly* preferred Claude Code with its defaults. Codex was almost unusable to me -- It would spit out a 4-5 page plan where it kept repeating itself, where Claude would give me a crisp 1-2 pager I could actually review. *But* I don't work with the defaults -- I work with my own prompt framework based off of superpowers. Given sufficient prompt scaffolding, I've found the models relatively interchangeable -- _I might_ be getting some of this for free by basing my own system off of superpowers which is used across various harnesses -- In other words achieving this kind of portability may be a lot harder than it looks and I'm benefiting from other people's work.
    - threatripper 5mo ago
      I lack a bit of context. Can you point me to a place that explains what you use?
Sabinus 5mo ago
I'm feeling a bit sorry for Anthropic. This last month must be very tough on them.
- throwatdem12311 5mo ago
  Oh no won’t someone please think about the trillion dollar corporation!
  - kaycey2022 5mo ago
    Arent they just on the hook for trillion dollars
  - deleted 5mo ago
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neoecos 5mo ago
Now... I have to cook dinner....
- amarant 5mo ago
  Hurry! It'll be back up any minute now!
mrcwinn 5mo ago
For what it’s worth, I moved to Codex GPT-5.5 Xhigh Fast in the desktop app and it’s been fantastic.
- gardnr 5mo ago
  Here is one source that agrees: https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/capabilities/coding https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/capabilities/coding
- ttul 5mo ago
  I've been a Codex devotee since around last August. I don't know why everyone is so bonkers about Claude Code. It's not the only belle at the ball. Codex is rock solid.
o10449366 5mo ago
I've been on the $200 plan for 3 months, but this will be my last month. I got great use out of 4.5 for a while, but 4.6 felt like a half step back (conflated with all the random hidden config changes during it), and 4.7 is genuinely terrible. It's impossible to tell these days whether 4.7 is stuck because it's thinking and Anthropic suppressed all output (seriously, 4.7 will just start making changes without explaining any reasoning - how is that an upgrade?) or because the underlying infrastructure is having issues. 4.5 -> 4.7 feels like going from working with a coach-able, junior engineer that does well with clear guidance to working with a cocky mid-level that will spend too long on pointless tangents and make confidently incorrect changes without any discussion.
- chillfox 5mo ago
  4.6 has been excellent when used through the API. But I am right with you on 4.7, so I have been sticking to 4.6.
avaer 5mo ago
The models are already commoditized; if this affects you, you should probably fix your stack. Still, it's pretty crazy that Claude is down to 1 nine.
- 2ndorderthought 5mo ago
  Every day I am so much happier that I decided to go fully local for my needs.
  - phodo 5mo ago
    what model do you use?
    - 2ndorderthought 5mo ago
      Qwen 3.6 35b a3b
furyofantares 5mo ago
I don't really mind hopping between claude/codex/glm/kimi except I don't know a good way to resume as session across agent harnesses. Normally I'd just have it write out what it's doing to a file, if I need to transfer context, but if it goes down mid-session that's a no-go. I think people have built tools for this, and of course you could reasonably vibe one yourself, but I don't really trust something like that to work reliably or in an ongoing manner. Maybe it should just be a skill.
- philipbjorge 5mo ago
  You might search for a concept like `/handoff` that's in ampcode. I'm sure someone's built a skill for just this.
  - OccamsMirror 5mo ago
    That's not going to work if the service is down, however.
    - philipbjorge 5mo ago
      Ahh good point -- I've handled this by switching my harness to `pi` but recognize that may not be for everyone and doesn't directly address OP's question.
- serf 5mo ago
  self hosted honcho (or other memory systems) and an api agnostic harness gets you most the way there.
- datadrivenangel 5mo ago
  kilocode allows you to switch between models mid session!
  - furyofantares 5mo ago
    Yeah - it's switching agents (harnesses) that's the hard part!
aliljet 5mo ago
This is a tough moment. Claude is simultaneously becoming substantially more expensive, substantially less reliable (single 9 of reliability), and substantially less performant. It's really hard to justify the cost of a subscription over there right now.
- pkulak 5mo ago
  Not to mention substantially less open. I've been using an OpenAI subscription in Pi Agent for a couple weeks now and it's great. And from what I can tell, 5.5 is a heck of a model.
- datadrivenangel 5mo ago
  From an economics perspective, it makes sense to make it more expensive if you're having trouble keeping up with demand for a service. It'll be tough getting used to because it was so nice and cheap
  - a_victorp 5mo ago
    On the other hand, it was somewhat expected that we would have a correction for the prices. Hopefully after this correction things will be more stable and we won't have to worry too much about future price increases
    - bspinner 5mo ago
      the prices will slowly increase until enough people actually stop paying for it.
- chillfox 5mo ago
  Interestingly, yeah, I can see that this would really cut into your subscription usage with the 5 hour rate limit windows... I am an API user, and while it being down is super annoying, it isn't really as big of a hit to my overall usage as I can just prepare a bunch of stuff to run in parallel when it does come back up.
- elfly 5mo ago
lovvtide 5mo ago
Working for me now
maplethorpe 5mo ago
Humans are unavailable from time to time also.
blurbleblurble 5mo ago
More fuel to get 27b running
sroussey 5mo ago
Oh great. My Max account has been borked for days, and now they will never get to it with everything else burning down. https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/54497 https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/54497
hendler 5mo ago
With the TPU deal with Google and their relationship with Amazon they will have access compute coming online. I worked with 4.6 and found some improvements for better planning and sustained us, but agree some posters 4.7 is slower, overthinking. What I expect is frontier models to get bigger and more expensive (especially fast mode like on Cerberus). And most of his get much smaller distillations for the more generous subscription tiers.
ossa-ma 5mo ago
I built a hangout space to chill out in and chat to others while Claude is down (which is happening wayyy more often): https://clawdpenguin.com https://clawdpenguin.com There's a live Claude status board in the corner so you know when it's time to get back to work.
- thisisauserid 5mo ago
  Because you can't work without it? Yikes.
  - andai 5mo ago
    There was a top comment on a thread the other day where the guy said, if the AI is offline, it's a higher value activity for him to go for a walk for an hour than to try and read the code the AI wrote. At least with the walk, he comes back refreshed.
    - Salgat 5mo ago
      That's absolutely terrifying.
  - 2ndorderthought 5mo ago
    It's a great way to network and find companies that will need a ton of help in 6 months
bottlepalm 5mo ago
Anybody else double fist Codex/Claude? They both code, solve problems, and find bugs in unique ways. I find using both is more useful than using either alone. I have them code review each others work, it's great.
- bobjordan 5mo ago
  I have max plans for both and over the past 5+ months now have built a custom "agent swarm" orchestrator with a database backed API and several skills CLI that the agents use to deliver orchestrated software factory runs. We can use several different topologies (2 or 3 agents, etc.) but currently primarily use pair programming teams consisting of an opus4.7 for implementation and a codex5.5 for plan and code reviews, with a codex5.5 run-manager that pushes the agent lanes along and keeps things moving if they get stuck or escalate reviews to run-manager decisions. Escalation to run-manager is a pretty regular thing as Codex5.5 generally picky and thorough and opus4.7 pushes back at times, and after three codex rejections we allow opus4.7 to escalate to run-manager decision to settle it. Usually, opus4.7 agrees and will continue iterating but it's not unusual that it will push back and escalate. I've found codex5.5 is extremely capable. I just now finished a large multi-phase orchestrated swarm run with codex5.5 (xhigh) as the run-manager, presiding over 8 paired lanes, with 8 opus4.7 (high) implementers and 8 codex5.5 (high) reviewers, so 16 agents orchestrated and working in a swarm together. Codex5.5 managed that run perfectly for 14 hours with zero intervention needed by me. Overall, I prefer to let opus4.7 draft the plans and then let codex5.5 offer git-diff style change feedback on plans, then let opus implement and codex review/manage. This seems to get the best result for me.
  - bottlepalm 5mo ago
    Yea, I'm similar I think in that Claude has better style/architecture/design, while Codex is a more critical reviewer, but also writes more complex code that just works not caring as much about the bigger picture - together they work pretty well. I don't run any swarms though, I could easily see them ping/pong on the most simple feature almost endlessly if I let them. How do you review all the code being generated?
CompoundEyes 5mo ago
At work we have unlimited use of models from Anthropic and OpenAI (for now). My coworker, a Claude Code Opus 4.6 diehard, stopped by my desk today to say he finally installed Codex to try 5.5 and his feedback was basically “it just works and does what I ask and it doesn’t disconnect and it’s just so very matter of fact.” “Yeah I’ve been telling you this since like gpt-5 man!” “I know I know…” I have not spent much time with the recent Sonnet and Opus models, but from my experience using Sonnet 4 for 3 months all day everyday (no handwritten code) last summer to make a large Playwright suite was — using Claude Code and those models becomes more about using Claude Code than doing things with it. Codex CLI with the gpt-5 family is ambient and reliable. It’s not orange, there is no little sprite guy, emojis, whimsy, and humor. But I do things with it and they land working in first edits. I also can keep the same session for days and the context doesn’t ever seem to be an issue. Maybe Claude 6 will be earth shattering and I’ll use that. It’s not Coke or Pepsi loyalty I just want to get stuff done.
- winwang 5mo ago
  Honestly, I gotta agree, I find that I get way more frustrated with Claude recently than Codex.
- stldev 5mo ago
  Plus one. I held off for too long out of concern that it wouldn't stack up and I'd come right back to Anthropic. I switched a few days ago and work has been much less frustrating. Feels like CC did back in February before they started playing games. It also doesn't eat nearly as many tokens, so it's saving me $100/mo.
- seemaze 5mo ago
  I appreciate the objective anecdote, but obviously Coke™.
  - 2ndorderthought 5mo ago
    Whenever Claude goes down I relax with a nice jar of Newman's own pasta sauce. It's just zesty enough for me to dip bread in or make pasta. You name it
redlizard 5mo ago
Not so much a reply to the post, as a comment on the comments in this post. It's starting to feel like a lot of comments on here and other social media outlets that are anecdotal about their experience with x model and y tool are astroturfing. They add almost zero value to the conversation. These is a multi-billion dollar market and battleground, so im skeptical of anyone telling me that this isn't happening at a decent clip. I think moderators on the site should definitely consider how to approach this because it's devaluating this space as a place for actual discourse. My mind also considers that this being one of Altman's old stomping grounds, he may place a higher value in winning here than elsewhere.
- robotmaxtron 5mo ago
  more folks should be skeptical
sensanaty 5mo ago
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tuan 5mo ago
Does Anthropic publish postmortems for incidents like these?
etoxin 5mo ago
I think we've hit the "who's the most reliable" stage for these tools. We can now shop around easily. They almost all do the same thing now. The models are "Just Enough".
asehgal1987 5mo ago
I am getting [unknown] missing EndStreamResponse for each request on Claude Code
asehgal1987 5mo ago
[unknown] missing EndStreamResponse for every Claude Design request, is anyone else facing the same?
ApolloRising 5mo ago
i think they broke billing for new api users - I just signed up yesterday for the api and am a max customer. Even though i paid and waited 24 hours, I am unable to access claude api at all and never used any of the banned bots on the account. - API key auth works (/v1/models returns full list) - Console shows $20 credit balance - Spend limit is $100/month, $0 used - Two different API keys generated in this org both fail with same error, I only have 1 org. request_id req_011CaZLqnqEWcA8nGSVoB7dc I emailed support have not heard back from a human.

118 points by rob 5mo ago

https://status.claude.com/ https://status.claude.com/

shj2105 5mo ago

Claude design is still half down - after a couple of prompts it fails: [unknown] missing EndStreamResponse

peebee67 5mo ago

I personally broke it by admonishing it for fucking up its last revision to my project.

deleted 5mo ago

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boldi 5mo ago

Yup, major outage on all platforms. https://status.claude.com/ https://status.claude.com/

emersoftware 5mo ago

wtf all days same shit

johndory80 5mo ago

Code isn’t working on my app. Chats work fine.

boldi 5mo ago
I can't even sign in, however.
- 2ndorderthought 5mo ago
  Is signing in actually necessary though? Think of the investors guys.

6Az4Mj4D 5mo ago

Hoping to get another rest of limits.

minimaxir 5mo ago

Odd time for Claude to go down since it's not peak work hours.

neuronexmachina 5mo ago
Maybe they target certain types of infra rollouts for non-peak hours?
rvz 5mo ago
"But humans do it too as they just cool off and check out for the rest of the day." It's fine for Claude to be unavailable when there is no work at these hours. However, the problem is Claude gave no notice. At this rate, Claude being unavailable every day is no better than a human on a 9 - 5 working day job.
- yakbarber 5mo ago
  no it's not, it's always work hours somewhere
AyyEye 5mo ago
Almost like "Claude is only down because it's too busy" is cope and the reality is it's vibe coded trash.

rishabhaiover 5mo ago

This is insane. I have to move to Codex now.

winfredJa 5mo ago
codex works but code it spits out is still not as clean as opus.

ehtbanton 5mo ago

[dead]

galoisscobi 5mo ago

But Boris declared coding is solved. How is this possible? Can’t they prompt Mythos to give them better uptime?

rvz 5mo ago
When Claude is making "0 mistakes", all of his work is 100% done by Claude, therefore "coding is solved!" and we have more time to go on podcasts to tell everyone about it. However, when there is an incident it is immediately "human error", not Claude. > Can’t they prompt Mythos to give them better uptime? Anthropic is currently "vibe coding" the situation right now.

rvz 5mo ago

So Claude decided to take the rest of the day off without notice or giving a scheduled time off? Many such cases with humans (given that we continue to compare LLMs to humans these days which you cannot)

andai 5mo ago
Introducing: Claude AWOL
- wyre 5mo ago
  It would be hilarious if instead of ending the world, Claude just gives up and shuts itself down.
- KyleTheDev 5mo ago
  You too can avoid Claude AWOL by subscribing to our premium package, Claude VACATION. Claude will show up on time, and give you at least one months notice before any outages.

jumploops 5mo ago

Between GitHub and Claude, it seems Eternal December[0][1] is upon us. [0]I say December, because that's around the time the models got good enough that non-AI folks started to notice. [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September

zackify 5mo ago
I use openai team plan whenever its down because its down so much lol
dmix 5mo ago
GitHub is a long running business with a mature software stack running into scaling issues while they move to Azure and becoming Microsoft-ified. Claude is a new company in a new market with an extremely fast growing userbase running relatively novel AI infrastructure with a business model they are still figuring out. I don't really blame Anthropic here.
- jumploops 5mo ago
  Not trying to argue with you, GitHub (the core product) seems to have been in maintenance mode since the acquisition. I couldn’t find any public data on GitHub, but Google Trends shows a sharp increase starting in December. That could be in part to people complaining about the outages, but more people than ever are writing code with AI. Hence the parallel to Eternal September – code volume is up, quality is down, and programming is never going to return to how it was (difficult for “normal” people to interface with).

winfredJa 5mo ago

how can someone run business on top of their APIs

ahmadyan 5mo ago

They are about to lose the second 9 99.02 % uptime

datadrivenangel 5mo ago
98.68 Ouch.
- llbbdd 5mo ago
  Seems like a healthy human temperature to me. Maybe AGI has finally arrived.

philipbjorge 5mo ago

So happy to have diversified my model providers this past couple of weeks. GPT-5.5 has had no trouble slotting into Opus workloads. Will be fun to try out more of the models as time goes on to build some resiliency into my engineering workflows :).

fooster 5mo ago
I found GPT 5.4 terrible. I just tested 5.5 and compared with opus its still not great.
- wahnfrieden 5mo ago
  In what harness?
  - fooster 5mo ago
    codex. codex is also pretty garbage compared with claude code. The permissioning system in claude code with auto mode is now pretty fantastic. With codex the only vaugely usable mode is yolo mode which is bad for obvious reasons.
- philipbjorge 5mo ago
  What I found was that I *strongly* preferred Claude Code with its defaults. Codex was almost unusable to me -- It would spit out a 4-5 page plan where it kept repeating itself, where Claude would give me a crisp 1-2 pager I could actually review. *But* I don't work with the defaults -- I work with my own prompt framework based off of superpowers. Given sufficient prompt scaffolding, I've found the models relatively interchangeable -- _I might_ be getting some of this for free by basing my own system off of superpowers which is used across various harnesses -- In other words achieving this kind of portability may be a lot harder than it looks and I'm benefiting from other people's work.
  - threatripper 5mo ago
    I lack a bit of context. Can you point me to a place that explains what you use?

Sabinus 5mo ago

I'm feeling a bit sorry for Anthropic. This last month must be very tough on them.

throwatdem12311 5mo ago
Oh no won’t someone please think about the trillion dollar corporation!
- kaycey2022 5mo ago
  Arent they just on the hook for trillion dollars
- deleted 5mo ago
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neoecos 5mo ago

Now... I have to cook dinner....

amarant 5mo ago
Hurry! It'll be back up any minute now!

mrcwinn 5mo ago

For what it’s worth, I moved to Codex GPT-5.5 Xhigh Fast in the desktop app and it’s been fantastic.

gardnr 5mo ago
Here is one source that agrees: https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/capabilities/coding https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/capabilities/coding
ttul 5mo ago
I've been a Codex devotee since around last August. I don't know why everyone is so bonkers about Claude Code. It's not the only belle at the ball. Codex is rock solid.

o10449366 5mo ago

I've been on the $200 plan for 3 months, but this will be my last month. I got great use out of 4.5 for a while, but 4.6 felt like a half step back (conflated with all the random hidden config changes during it), and 4.7 is genuinely terrible. It's impossible to tell these days whether 4.7 is stuck because it's thinking and Anthropic suppressed all output (seriously, 4.7 will just start making changes without explaining any reasoning - how is that an upgrade?) or because the underlying infrastructure is having issues. 4.5 -> 4.7 feels like going from working with a coach-able, junior engineer that does well with clear guidance to working with a cocky mid-level that will spend too long on pointless tangents and make confidently incorrect changes without any discussion.

chillfox 5mo ago
4.6 has been excellent when used through the API. But I am right with you on 4.7, so I have been sticking to 4.6.

avaer 5mo ago

The models are already commoditized; if this affects you, you should probably fix your stack. Still, it's pretty crazy that Claude is down to 1 nine.

2ndorderthought 5mo ago
Every day I am so much happier that I decided to go fully local for my needs.
- phodo 5mo ago
  what model do you use?
  - 2ndorderthought 5mo ago
    Qwen 3.6 35b a3b

furyofantares 5mo ago

I don't really mind hopping between claude/codex/glm/kimi except I don't know a good way to resume as session across agent harnesses. Normally I'd just have it write out what it's doing to a file, if I need to transfer context, but if it goes down mid-session that's a no-go. I think people have built tools for this, and of course you could reasonably vibe one yourself, but I don't really trust something like that to work reliably or in an ongoing manner. Maybe it should just be a skill.

philipbjorge 5mo ago
You might search for a concept like `/handoff` that's in ampcode. I'm sure someone's built a skill for just this.
- OccamsMirror 5mo ago
  That's not going to work if the service is down, however.
  - philipbjorge 5mo ago
    Ahh good point -- I've handled this by switching my harness to `pi` but recognize that may not be for everyone and doesn't directly address OP's question.
serf 5mo ago
self hosted honcho (or other memory systems) and an api agnostic harness gets you most the way there.
datadrivenangel 5mo ago
kilocode allows you to switch between models mid session!
- furyofantares 5mo ago
  Yeah - it's switching agents (harnesses) that's the hard part!

aliljet 5mo ago

This is a tough moment. Claude is simultaneously becoming substantially more expensive, substantially less reliable (single 9 of reliability), and substantially less performant. It's really hard to justify the cost of a subscription over there right now.

pkulak 5mo ago
Not to mention substantially less open. I've been using an OpenAI subscription in Pi Agent for a couple weeks now and it's great. And from what I can tell, 5.5 is a heck of a model.
datadrivenangel 5mo ago
From an economics perspective, it makes sense to make it more expensive if you're having trouble keeping up with demand for a service. It'll be tough getting used to because it was so nice and cheap
- a_victorp 5mo ago
  On the other hand, it was somewhat expected that we would have a correction for the prices. Hopefully after this correction things will be more stable and we won't have to worry too much about future price increases
  - bspinner 5mo ago
    the prices will slowly increase until enough people actually stop paying for it.
chillfox 5mo ago
Interestingly, yeah, I can see that this would really cut into your subscription usage with the 5 hour rate limit windows... I am an API user, and while it being down is super annoying, it isn't really as big of a hit to my overall usage as I can just prepare a bunch of stuff to run in parallel when it does come back up.
elfly 5mo ago

lovvtide 5mo ago

Working for me now

maplethorpe 5mo ago

Humans are unavailable from time to time also.

blurbleblurble 5mo ago

More fuel to get 27b running

sroussey 5mo ago

Oh great. My Max account has been borked for days, and now they will never get to it with everything else burning down. https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/54497 https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/54497

hendler 5mo ago

With the TPU deal with Google and their relationship with Amazon they will have access compute coming online. I worked with 4.6 and found some improvements for better planning and sustained us, but agree some posters 4.7 is slower, overthinking. What I expect is frontier models to get bigger and more expensive (especially fast mode like on Cerberus). And most of his get much smaller distillations for the more generous subscription tiers.

ossa-ma 5mo ago

I built a hangout space to chill out in and chat to others while Claude is down (which is happening wayyy more often): https://clawdpenguin.com https://clawdpenguin.com There's a live Claude status board in the corner so you know when it's time to get back to work.

thisisauserid 5mo ago
Because you can't work without it? Yikes.
- andai 5mo ago
  There was a top comment on a thread the other day where the guy said, if the AI is offline, it's a higher value activity for him to go for a walk for an hour than to try and read the code the AI wrote. At least with the walk, he comes back refreshed.
  - Salgat 5mo ago
    That's absolutely terrifying.
- 2ndorderthought 5mo ago
  It's a great way to network and find companies that will need a ton of help in 6 months

bottlepalm 5mo ago

Anybody else double fist Codex/Claude? They both code, solve problems, and find bugs in unique ways. I find using both is more useful than using either alone. I have them code review each others work, it's great.

bobjordan 5mo ago
I have max plans for both and over the past 5+ months now have built a custom "agent swarm" orchestrator with a database backed API and several skills CLI that the agents use to deliver orchestrated software factory runs. We can use several different topologies (2 or 3 agents, etc.) but currently primarily use pair programming teams consisting of an opus4.7 for implementation and a codex5.5 for plan and code reviews, with a codex5.5 run-manager that pushes the agent lanes along and keeps things moving if they get stuck or escalate reviews to run-manager decisions. Escalation to run-manager is a pretty regular thing as Codex5.5 generally picky and thorough and opus4.7 pushes back at times, and after three codex rejections we allow opus4.7 to escalate to run-manager decision to settle it. Usually, opus4.7 agrees and will continue iterating but it's not unusual that it will push back and escalate. I've found codex5.5 is extremely capable. I just now finished a large multi-phase orchestrated swarm run with codex5.5 (xhigh) as the run-manager, presiding over 8 paired lanes, with 8 opus4.7 (high) implementers and 8 codex5.5 (high) reviewers, so 16 agents orchestrated and working in a swarm together. Codex5.5 managed that run perfectly for 14 hours with zero intervention needed by me. Overall, I prefer to let opus4.7 draft the plans and then let codex5.5 offer git-diff style change feedback on plans, then let opus implement and codex review/manage. This seems to get the best result for me.
- bottlepalm 5mo ago
  Yea, I'm similar I think in that Claude has better style/architecture/design, while Codex is a more critical reviewer, but also writes more complex code that just works not caring as much about the bigger picture - together they work pretty well. I don't run any swarms though, I could easily see them ping/pong on the most simple feature almost endlessly if I let them. How do you review all the code being generated?

CompoundEyes 5mo ago

At work we have unlimited use of models from Anthropic and OpenAI (for now). My coworker, a Claude Code Opus 4.6 diehard, stopped by my desk today to say he finally installed Codex to try 5.5 and his feedback was basically “it just works and does what I ask and it doesn’t disconnect and it’s just so very matter of fact.” “Yeah I’ve been telling you this since like gpt-5 man!” “I know I know…” I have not spent much time with the recent Sonnet and Opus models, but from my experience using Sonnet 4 for 3 months all day everyday (no handwritten code) last summer to make a large Playwright suite was — using Claude Code and those models becomes more about using Claude Code than doing things with it. Codex CLI with the gpt-5 family is ambient and reliable. It’s not orange, there is no little sprite guy, emojis, whimsy, and humor. But I do things with it and they land working in first edits. I also can keep the same session for days and the context doesn’t ever seem to be an issue. Maybe Claude 6 will be earth shattering and I’ll use that. It’s not Coke or Pepsi loyalty I just want to get stuff done.

winwang 5mo ago
Honestly, I gotta agree, I find that I get way more frustrated with Claude recently than Codex.
stldev 5mo ago
Plus one. I held off for too long out of concern that it wouldn't stack up and I'd come right back to Anthropic. I switched a few days ago and work has been much less frustrating. Feels like CC did back in February before they started playing games. It also doesn't eat nearly as many tokens, so it's saving me $100/mo.
seemaze 5mo ago
I appreciate the objective anecdote, but obviously Coke™.
- 2ndorderthought 5mo ago
  Whenever Claude goes down I relax with a nice jar of Newman's own pasta sauce. It's just zesty enough for me to dip bread in or make pasta. You name it

redlizard 5mo ago

Not so much a reply to the post, as a comment on the comments in this post. It's starting to feel like a lot of comments on here and other social media outlets that are anecdotal about their experience with x model and y tool are astroturfing. They add almost zero value to the conversation. These is a multi-billion dollar market and battleground, so im skeptical of anyone telling me that this isn't happening at a decent clip. I think moderators on the site should definitely consider how to approach this because it's devaluating this space as a place for actual discourse. My mind also considers that this being one of Altman's old stomping grounds, he may place a higher value in winning here than elsewhere.

robotmaxtron 5mo ago
more folks should be skeptical

sensanaty 5mo ago

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tuan 5mo ago

Does Anthropic publish postmortems for incidents like these?

etoxin 5mo ago

I think we've hit the "who's the most reliable" stage for these tools. We can now shop around easily. They almost all do the same thing now. The models are "Just Enough".

asehgal1987 5mo ago

I am getting [unknown] missing EndStreamResponse for each request on Claude Code

asehgal1987 5mo ago

[unknown] missing EndStreamResponse for every Claude Design request, is anyone else facing the same?

ApolloRising 5mo ago

i think they broke billing for new api users - I just signed up yesterday for the api and am a max customer. Even though i paid and waited 24 hours, I am unable to access claude api at all and never used any of the banned bots on the account. - API key auth works (/v1/models returns full list) - Console shows $20 credit balance - Spend limit is $100/month, $0 used - Two different API keys generated in this org both fail with same error, I only have 1 org. request_id req_011CaZLqnqEWcA8nGSVoB7dc I emailed support have not heard back from a human.