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Also, he is looking less like someone doing amazing things and more like someone talking about the amazing things he is gonna do. In the past I was thinking I

by tocs3 5mo ago

Also, he is looking less like someone doing amazing things and more like someone talking about the amazing things he is gonna do. In the past I was thinking I would really like to invest in spacex. Who know they might do really well. I am not so sure now.

marcusverus 5mo ago
The first catch of Super Heavy by the chopsticks was 18 months ago. Tesla started mass production of a dedicated, steering-wheel-free robotaxi five days ago. The first flight of the new Raptor 3 engine should happen any day now. Elon is doing amazing things on a regular basis. What would drive someone to pretend otherwise?
- thejazzman 5mo ago
  If Elon can do all of that why does he employ so many people?
  - marcusverus 5mo ago
    This rude reddit stuff, this snarky ignorance-as-an-argument junk, is just so demeaning. The role of the entrepreneur is to organize labor and capital in pursuit of their goals. The achievement of said goals can obviously be attributed to the entrepreneur. Try anchoring your arguments in facts--in reality. Make assertions. Form syllogisms. Word games are for children.
- Zigurd 5mo ago
  There is no mass production of Tesla robotaxis. The most generous interpretation of the claim of mass production is that they are no longer handcrafted by a prototype shop, and that work has moved into a Tesla facility. But that's not a production line, and that's not mass production. Every Tesla car that hasn't got someone in the driver's seat with the steering wheel in front of them is being followed by a chase car and a remote operator. But this is all fresh BS. How many times has Elon claimed that Tesla semi is in mass production?
  - marcusverus 5mo ago
    You have successfully rebutted my use of the word "mass". What about the substance of the argument?
panick21_ 5mo ago
I agree that he has gotten ahead of himself. His companies still do some good stuff, but his talk has increased, specially on AI. AI has always been his biggest weakspot. I agree with you, I would have invested in SpaceX in most of their history, and I was very bullish on Starlink and continue to be. But once you talk about being worth trillions and have orbital AI datacenter and twitter, I'm out.

by tocs3 5mo ago

marcusverus 5mo ago

The first catch of Super Heavy by the chopsticks was 18 months ago. Tesla started mass production of a dedicated, steering-wheel-free robotaxi five days ago. The first flight of the new Raptor 3 engine should happen any day now. Elon is doing amazing things on a regular basis. What would drive someone to pretend otherwise?

thejazzman 5mo ago
If Elon can do all of that why does he employ so many people?
- marcusverus 5mo ago
  This rude reddit stuff, this snarky ignorance-as-an-argument junk, is just so demeaning. The role of the entrepreneur is to organize labor and capital in pursuit of their goals. The achievement of said goals can obviously be attributed to the entrepreneur. Try anchoring your arguments in facts--in reality. Make assertions. Form syllogisms. Word games are for children.
Zigurd 5mo ago
There is no mass production of Tesla robotaxis. The most generous interpretation of the claim of mass production is that they are no longer handcrafted by a prototype shop, and that work has moved into a Tesla facility. But that's not a production line, and that's not mass production. Every Tesla car that hasn't got someone in the driver's seat with the steering wheel in front of them is being followed by a chase car and a remote operator. But this is all fresh BS. How many times has Elon claimed that Tesla semi is in mass production?
- marcusverus 5mo ago
  You have successfully rebutted my use of the word "mass". What about the substance of the argument?

panick21_ 5mo ago

I agree that he has gotten ahead of himself. His companies still do some good stuff, but his talk has increased, specially on AI. AI has always been his biggest weakspot. I agree with you, I would have invested in SpaceX in most of their history, and I was very bullish on Starlink and continue to be. But once you talk about being worth trillions and have orbital AI datacenter and twitter, I'm out.