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I am posting this because I want to like and use Zed because it's so fast and responsive (Especially on my tablet, which JB turns into a space heater), and has

I am posting this because I want to like and use Zed because it's so fast and responsive (Especially on my tablet, which JB turns into a space heater), and has neat functionality like being able to switch to whatever set of hotkeys you use. And I greatly respect the small binary/download size and fast install. From experimenting in Python and rust: - Doesn't highlight typos in variable, functions, class/struct names etc. Doesn't highlight rust borrow-check, invalid method etc errors. - Doesn't seem to understand either language beyond superficial syntax - "Go to definition" (Ctrl + B) Doesn't do anything - Doesn't show which versions are valid in Cargo.toml and pyproject.toml - No ability to move functions/classes/structs etc to different modules - Doesn't seem to understand rust feature gates - Doesn't seem to understand what fields a struct has, or params a function has, let a lone what types are valid in them. - Rename seems naive Overall: It is taking a superficial view of the code base, and treating it more as text than a cohesive structure. edit: Thank you very much for those who have pointed out I needed to disable restricted mode. This has added some introspection and in-line error handling. Some of my concerns are partially-mitigated. It seems when introspection and in-line editing/complete/data appears is inconsistent (But working in many cases), and I do not yet know what rules define this. Refactoring tools like moving are still absent. I will continue to use Zed on my tablet with the LSPs enabled, and observe.

TiredOfLife 6mo ago
> Overall: It is taking a superficial view of the code base, and treating it more as text than a cohesive structure. That is the part that makes the space heater
pastel8739 6mo ago
It sounds like LSP isn’t working for you for some reason. Have you installed the extensions for those languages? These things are definitely supported via LSP
bouh 6mo ago
Did you market the project as trusted? Récent update (à few month) requises the trust to reenable the analyses feature It took me a while to understand lol At Somme point I though that the parker were broken in my codebase xD
- the__alchemist 6mo ago
  I did not. Ty. I will look into doing this.
ForceBru 6mo ago
I thought Zed was using tree-sitter: https://zed.dev/blog/syntax-aware-editing https://zed.dev/blog/syntax-aware-editing? Shouldn't it address all of these issues? Does tree-sitter not understand Python (basically the most popular language out there) and Rust "beyond superficial syntax"? I thought its whole point was that it understands everything about a language's syntax because it builds a concrete syntax tree?
- arijun 6mo ago
  TreeSitter is an amazing tool but is (purposefully) quite limited compared to an IDE--it doesn't even cross file boundaries, so go to definition is a non-starter. Zed uses LSPs like Rust Analyzer to fill that role.
dmit 6mo ago
> And I greatly respect the small binary/download size The latest x86_64 Linux build is 136MB. (https://zed.dev/docs/linux#downloading-manually https://zed.dev/docs/linux#downloading-manually) As for your list of grievances, they all seem to boil down to the respective LSPs not doing their job? Does Ctrl-Alt-l (lowercase L, not Shift+i) include the language's server in the context menu, and are there any errors reported for it if it does?
- the__alchemist 6mo ago
  Ctrl + alt + l in Zed is not causing any observable effect.
arijun 6mo ago
I suspect you may be operating in "Restricted mode," aka it doesn't know if it can trust the directory. In that mode, the main tools like Rust analyzer are quite restricted. All of your complaints should be resolved once Rust Analyzer/basedpyrite are up and running. I do think they should have a more obvious warning that the current directory is untrusted, right now the little green warning in the corner is way too unobtrusive and will result in many people having the same issue as you.
- the__alchemist 6mo ago
  Nailed it! I will do some more experiments and report back.
  - wldcordeiro 6mo ago
    You should edit your original comment since it was user-error not the app being inferior.
    - the__alchemist 6mo ago
      Done; ty.
    - NetMageSCW 6mo ago
      Is it really user error if the default for an application is to behave poorly?

TiredOfLife 6mo ago

> Overall: It is taking a superficial view of the code base, and treating it more as text than a cohesive structure. That is the part that makes the space heater

pastel8739 6mo ago

It sounds like LSP isn’t working for you for some reason. Have you installed the extensions for those languages? These things are definitely supported via LSP

bouh 6mo ago

Did you market the project as trusted? Récent update (à few month) requises the trust to reenable the analyses feature It took me a while to understand lol At Somme point I though that the parker were broken in my codebase xD

the__alchemist 6mo ago
I did not. Ty. I will look into doing this.

ForceBru 6mo ago

I thought Zed was using tree-sitter: https://zed.dev/blog/syntax-aware-editing https://zed.dev/blog/syntax-aware-editing? Shouldn't it address all of these issues? Does tree-sitter not understand Python (basically the most popular language out there) and Rust "beyond superficial syntax"? I thought its whole point was that it understands everything about a language's syntax because it builds a concrete syntax tree?

arijun 6mo ago
TreeSitter is an amazing tool but is (purposefully) quite limited compared to an IDE--it doesn't even cross file boundaries, so go to definition is a non-starter. Zed uses LSPs like Rust Analyzer to fill that role.

dmit 6mo ago

> And I greatly respect the small binary/download size The latest x86_64 Linux build is 136MB. (https://zed.dev/docs/linux#downloading-manually https://zed.dev/docs/linux#downloading-manually) As for your list of grievances, they all seem to boil down to the respective LSPs not doing their job? Does Ctrl-Alt-l (lowercase L, not Shift+i) include the language's server in the context menu, and are there any errors reported for it if it does?

the__alchemist 6mo ago
Ctrl + alt + l in Zed is not causing any observable effect.

arijun 6mo ago

I suspect you may be operating in "Restricted mode," aka it doesn't know if it can trust the directory. In that mode, the main tools like Rust analyzer are quite restricted. All of your complaints should be resolved once Rust Analyzer/basedpyrite are up and running. I do think they should have a more obvious warning that the current directory is untrusted, right now the little green warning in the corner is way too unobtrusive and will result in many people having the same issue as you.

the__alchemist 6mo ago
Nailed it! I will do some more experiments and report back.
- wldcordeiro 6mo ago
  You should edit your original comment since it was user-error not the app being inferior.
  - the__alchemist 6mo ago
    Done; ty.
  - NetMageSCW 6mo ago
    Is it really user error if the default for an application is to behave poorly?