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"Hoewing said his company's customers will experience this as a pop-up window." Presumably by injecting Javascript into customer web traffic? I don't torrent c

"Hoewing said his company's customers will experience this as a pop-up window." Presumably by injecting Javascript into customer web traffic? I don't torrent copyrighted material, but I was hoping we were done with ISPs screwing with HTTP after the ad replacement scandals of a few years ago.

calinet6 14y ago
Probably a DNS redirect, until they acknowledge it. Similar to how pay or free Wi-Fi hotspot agreements work.
- mortenjorck 14y ago
  Ok, I actually like that a lot more. I could see it being characterized as a "pop-up" by less technical speakers. If an ISP is going to communicate with me outside the usual channels, I'd much rather they do it at a DNS level, where it's obvious something's happening, than at an HTTP level where there's a much greater temptation for mischief.
  - calinet6 14y ago
    Plus you can just ignore their DNS server, and use 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 (google's) or OpenDNS instead. (though that may not work if they cut off your connection until you acknowledge)
    - chimeracoder 14y ago
      > Plus you can just ignore their DNS server, and use 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 (google's) or OpenDNS instead. Or just hardcode the values into /etc/hosts. > though that may not work if they cut off your connection until you acknowledge Oh, so they can threaten to renege on their end of the contract (the service I have already paid for) unless I admit to their accusations of potentially incriminating activity? That's just ridiculous[1]. [1] But I still wouldn't put it past them!
- tomjen3 14y ago
  Well that isn't going to work -- what if you use a vpn (say to your place of employment, because you are working at home)?
  - wpietri 14y ago
    Then you will eventually either shift to a normal usage pattern (a habit many people have learned when roving) or call them up for support.
wmf 14y ago
DNS tricks are lame, but we need some kind of ISP-customer control channel and right now that's the only one that works.

calinet6 14y ago

Probably a DNS redirect, until they acknowledge it. Similar to how pay or free Wi-Fi hotspot agreements work.

mortenjorck 14y ago
Ok, I actually like that a lot more. I could see it being characterized as a "pop-up" by less technical speakers. If an ISP is going to communicate with me outside the usual channels, I'd much rather they do it at a DNS level, where it's obvious something's happening, than at an HTTP level where there's a much greater temptation for mischief.
- calinet6 14y ago
  Plus you can just ignore their DNS server, and use 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 (google's) or OpenDNS instead. (though that may not work if they cut off your connection until you acknowledge)
  - chimeracoder 14y ago
    > Plus you can just ignore their DNS server, and use 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 (google's) or OpenDNS instead. Or just hardcode the values into /etc/hosts. > though that may not work if they cut off your connection until you acknowledge Oh, so they can threaten to renege on their end of the contract (the service I have already paid for) unless I admit to their accusations of potentially incriminating activity? That's just ridiculous[1]. [1] But I still wouldn't put it past them!
tomjen3 14y ago
Well that isn't going to work -- what if you use a vpn (say to your place of employment, because you are working at home)?
- wpietri 14y ago
  Then you will eventually either shift to a normal usage pattern (a habit many people have learned when roving) or call them up for support.

wmf 14y ago

DNS tricks are lame, but we need some kind of ISP-customer control channel and right now that's the only one that works.