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So by this logic my auto complete function before Ai also wrote 50% of my code and is not made by me, because I didn't type it. What should matter is intent, t
by tiku 5mo ago
So by this logic my auto complete function before Ai also wrote 50% of my code and is not made by me, because I didn't type it.
What should matter is intent, the human that gives the orders.
- gspr 5mo ago> What should matter is intent, the human that gives the orders. I'd like to hear more nuance with regards to this line of reasoning. Can you conceive of a model that contains highly non-trivial representations of IP owned by others than yourself? Can you conceive that you might "order" the model to "produce" that IP? What happens then? Try this both for "open source code" as the IP, and "the novel I wrote", and "latest Hollywood movie". The model does not have to be a real model currently available. It's just a thought experiment. Try also to elaborate on the sliding scale between "an AI model" and "a compression system".
- pjmlp 5mo agoWell, have you actually read the license for the auto complete function? Example, https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items/VisualStudioExptTeam.vscodeintellicode/license https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items/VisualStudioExptT...
- fooqux 5mo agoI just did. Nothing in here says who owns the resulting text. Did I miss something?
- pjmlp 5mo ago> If you hover over a line of code in your application, coding assistance services will display code strings of supported function calls available through the coding assistance service that are also present in your current code file. Coding assistive services will retrieve snippets from publicly available open source code showing how others are using those same functions. 3. THIRD PARTY COMPONENTS. The software may include third party components with separate legal notices or governed by other agreements, as may be described in the notices file(s) accompanying the software.
- fooqux 5mo agoI've read that paragraph multiple times (both in the original and in your post) and I don't see anything that says who owns the resulting text. Just where it comes from. Am I missing something obvious?
- sevenzero 5mo ago>will retrieve snippets from publicly available open source code Pretty sure it depends on the license the open source project uses. I dont think it's too troublesome if the autocomplete was truly only taken from open source projects, but it wouldn't surprise me if most closed source projects are also weighted into these models...
- fooqux 5mo agoAh, thank you. I read that but wasn't connecting the dots properly.
- Leynos 5mo agoThat is not auto-complete, that's API Usage Examples. See: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=VisualStudioExptTeam.vscodeintellicode https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=VisualSt...
- perlgeek 5mo agoThe auto complete function doesn't really change what you write, so it doesn't remove the human creativity.
- panny 5mo ago>What should matter is intent, the human that gives the orders. If you are instructed by your professor to write an application, do you own the copyright or the professor? Suddenly, you think you own the copyright again. In fact, in every case, you think you own the copyright. Because of your feelings. That's a common opinion here on HN too. You don't have this opinion by any logical stance. Nor by any legal doctrine. The fact is: Copyright law applies to human authors. AI is not a human. https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/LSB10922 https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/LSB10922