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> https://code.overheid.nl/RegelRecht/regelrecht https://code.overheid.nl/RegelRecht/regelrecht > Machine-readable Dutch law execution. regelrecht takes legal

by Mashimo 6mo ago

> https://code.overheid.nl/RegelRecht/regelrecht https://code.overheid.nl/RegelRecht/regelrecht > Machine-readable Dutch law execution. regelrecht takes legal texts, encodes them as structured YAML, and runs them as deterministic decision logic. The engine takes a regulation and a set of inputs, evaluates the decision logic, and returns a result with a full explanation trail Can someone explain this to me? Not the technical aspect, but rather a user story or use case, maybe with example. I can't really wrap my head around it. Thanks in advanced.

embedding-shape 6mo ago
Probably better entry point is https://regelrecht.rijks.app/ https://regelrecht.rijks.app/ and you can see an example of the YAML and outputs here: https://editor.regelrecht.rijks.app/library/afstemmingsverordening_participatiewet_diemen/9 https://editor.regelrecht.rijks.app/library/afstemmingsveror... As for the use case, it seems to be an explorative exercise to see if something like that can help provide more transparency and consistency within systems of law, "whether machine-executable legislation can provide an answer" to complex and opaque cases. The websites linked earlier have more information + examples.
fenykep 6mo ago
I read (with much hope in my heart) it as: all the combined rent laws say that the max rent in X district is 5€/mo/sqm but you can charge 20€ for windowcleaning services and 1€/mo/sqm extra if the flat has an ikea bedframe and a bathtub. You enter the parameters of your rental agreement and the magic box spits out wether your situation is legal or not, then you just have to press a button to sue your landlord. Bringing the boring old legal system closer to smart contracts. But I don't have a clue if this is really the case.
Bewelge 6mo ago
https://regelrecht.rijks.app/ https://regelrecht.rijks.app/ I think that's the project. "Modern calculation engine as a building block for the entire government. In collaboration with the Benefits Service (Dienst Toeslagen). Can we develop a general calculation engine for the government? This project explores how such a system could help in executing complex regulations for citizens and businesses, for example, when calculating benefits."
- arionhardison 6mo ago
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vasco 6mo ago
I imagine if a new law is introduced or a change to an existing law is proposed it can auto-check for consistency, collisions with other laws, auto-flag laws that need to be amended together or things like that.
- arionhardison 6mo ago
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- Tangurena2 6mo ago
  If such a thing exists (or could exist), I'm certain that my state government agency would benefit greatly from it.
  - vasco 6mo ago
    All that is needed is political will, if then all subdepartments implement the same thing you could even have practical policies be auto-flagged that need to be updated when a law changes with instant suggested updates to some form people need to submit, etc. This whole government apparatus could be much simpler.
arionhardison 6mo ago
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by Mashimo 6mo ago

embedding-shape 6mo ago

Probably better entry point is https://regelrecht.rijks.app/ https://regelrecht.rijks.app/ and you can see an example of the YAML and outputs here: https://editor.regelrecht.rijks.app/library/afstemmingsverordening_participatiewet_diemen/9 https://editor.regelrecht.rijks.app/library/afstemmingsveror... As for the use case, it seems to be an explorative exercise to see if something like that can help provide more transparency and consistency within systems of law, "whether machine-executable legislation can provide an answer" to complex and opaque cases. The websites linked earlier have more information + examples.

fenykep 6mo ago

I read (with much hope in my heart) it as: all the combined rent laws say that the max rent in X district is 5€/mo/sqm but you can charge 20€ for windowcleaning services and 1€/mo/sqm extra if the flat has an ikea bedframe and a bathtub. You enter the parameters of your rental agreement and the magic box spits out wether your situation is legal or not, then you just have to press a button to sue your landlord. Bringing the boring old legal system closer to smart contracts. But I don't have a clue if this is really the case.

Bewelge 6mo ago

https://regelrecht.rijks.app/ https://regelrecht.rijks.app/ I think that's the project. "Modern calculation engine as a building block for the entire government. In collaboration with the Benefits Service (Dienst Toeslagen). Can we develop a general calculation engine for the government? This project explores how such a system could help in executing complex regulations for citizens and businesses, for example, when calculating benefits."

arionhardison 6mo ago
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vasco 6mo ago

I imagine if a new law is introduced or a change to an existing law is proposed it can auto-check for consistency, collisions with other laws, auto-flag laws that need to be amended together or things like that.

arionhardison 6mo ago
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Tangurena2 6mo ago
If such a thing exists (or could exist), I'm certain that my state government agency would benefit greatly from it.
- vasco 6mo ago
  All that is needed is political will, if then all subdepartments implement the same thing you could even have practical policies be auto-flagged that need to be updated when a law changes with instant suggested updates to some form people need to submit, etc. This whole government apparatus could be much simpler.

arionhardison 6mo ago

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